Why Do Video Game Movies Suck? - #7

Enjoy the Show: Why Do Video Game Movies Suck? - #7

With Assassin's Creed & Warcraft keeping the curse alive that all video game movies have to be bad, will we ever see a good video game movie? Should filmmakers keep trying or let it rest?

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  • Kreba

    4 weeks ago

    I wanted more Gul'dan screen time. he's my Senpai!

  • Only12spaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Is Jon drunk?

  • SpanishDog63 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    A lot of the points brought up here are pretty much all the reasons why I'm not too sure about a Magic: The Gathering movie, especially regarding characters and story.

  • Meerkat810 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Meerkat810

    1 month ago

    I actually enjoyed the Prince of Persia movie and I am surprised it didn't get touched on.

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      I still have yet to watch it. It's on my list. Didn't get to it before we filmed this.

  • Jaune_Black_Smudge FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Hey Jon, why is there no After The Credits? 

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      We shot this episode as a test for The Know channel and did not record one. Sorry.

    • Jaune_Black_Smudge FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      So, is there going to be more Enjoy The Show?

  • Vhoxz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    The start of the movie is in the year 592 (king's calender), which would be year 0 on a timeline. This orc invasion is more commonly known as the first war (well for us lore nerds at least). The problem they have is that (as Jon said) there are 25000 years before that point ( where the orc history starts, we're not even going to start with titans and other things), and in this time there happens so much that is so important for this movie. Things like who is Sargeras, where do the orcs come from, where Gul'dan comes from, ... And those are all necessary for decent character development. Now you're dropped in the middle of a ongoing story, and you're lost from the start.
    And as Jon also said they are showing this story from different sides. There's the Gul'dan side, the human side the Durotan side and the Medivh side. If you try to fit all these stories into one movie you end up with a very confusing story that is incredibly hard to follow if you know nothing about it.
    They also changed the lore (A LOT), and they have a real weird twisted story now because nothing adds up. 
    The reason why the elves and the dwarfs are not in this movie is because the first war was fought between orcs and humans. As a result of this war the alliance of Lordaeron was created between the Humans, Elves, Dwarfs, and the Gnomes (and some other factions I don't remember).


    I honestly think they should have gone with the Thrall (Go'ell, Durotan's son) storyline. That is such an amazing storyline that I would love to see in a movie. 

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I think Rise of the Horde would've been a better start, if they planned a series at least, but seeing Thrall's story in movie form would be awesome. And I think the only truly unforgivable change they made to the lore was removing the demon blood from the orcs.

  • akelm FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I enjoyed the Warcraft movie for what it was, since I'm a big WoW nerd myself. That said, Gul'Dan looked horrible.

  • Daexulin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I agree with Ashley that Warcraft tried to fit too much into the story. But I would also add that they hollowed out their bad guys by removing the Burning Legion as the source of the fell. Instead of having an over arching bad guy influencing different fronts they split the load and having multiple bad guys. The other problem I said is that most people watching it could not separate the WOW factor of the movie of which the movie didn't try to fix. While Jon is correct that the story pulled in elements that were retconned by WOW the majority of the story was from Orcs and Humans and the sequel Tides of Darkness.


    The biggest problem I see in many movies now is that they are rushing the story to set up a franchise. Marvel established their success by subtly giving teases to the rest of the universe which takes time and careful planning.

  • InuiTakumi23 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Not even joking when I saw that the first Mortal Kombat is still the best video game to movie adaptation that's been made. It was faithful to the source material and just had fun with it. It knew what kind of movie it was and didn't hold back. Sure, the story is basically Enter the Dragon with fatalities, but the whole game is a ripoff of like 5 different action movies from the previous two decade so it worked. And the movie was so popular that some of the designs were changed in future games to reflect the movie. It also helps that I absolutely love the movie unironically and watch it at least once a year. It's SUCH A FUN MOVIE.

  • TimothyG FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Mr. Dad-Bod Canada 2016

    1 month ago

    Jon arguing with Asimov's ending to the book -__-

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I think the girl from Interstellar would make a good Ellie.

  • callmeanerd FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold kody

    1 month ago

    i am legend sucked balls. the book is billions of times better. movie can go to hell

  • JessieParks FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I think big video games like WoW and Elder Scrolls should be done like Marvel has done there movies by releasing a movie every year or every other year with each movie focusing on one story or one character from the games that would eventually lead up to the bigger plot of the games. Since a lot of these games keep adding expansions and dlc you could keep making great small stories that eventually end up as an epic chronicle. 

  • gerbosphere FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Horizon: Zero Dawn would be an amazing movie. Theoretically.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I don't think anyone could accomplish the aesthetics.

    • gerbosphere FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      James Cameron?

  • morthalis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    They should make video game movies first person like Hardcore Henry. Imagine a first person Halo movie or Portal.

    • TimothyG FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Mr. Dad-Bod Canada 2016

      1 month ago

      Gaaaawd that movie was good

  • Jaune_Black_Smudge FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Jon, Ashley, Adam, how can you talk about video game movies and NOT talk about Tekken?! That was in my opinion the best video game movie ever. The action was great and there was a main character who we could find interesting. The story felt exciting, the characters were interesting, and the world was immersive. 


    Plus, we get to see Kelly Overton's butt cleavage! Need I say more?

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 month ago

    I think adam is right. A movie where Cortana basically narrates everything in the with some dialogue between cortana and Chief during the nitty gritty bits would be a fantastic movie.  Spend maybe 15 minutes on his origin. do like a minute or so talking about all the worlds that were lost. The spartans that had gone "missing" then boom just jump straight into the fall of reach. But keep it very focused on chief and blue team and humanize john with his interactions as they try to prevent the fall of reach. John wicked worked because its just action scene follwed up by more action. The movie never really second guessed itself. I think if Halo followed a similar routine it would work. End the movie on the pillar of autumn approaching the halo ring with cortana doing her speech from the game halo the fall of reach. Dont try to make the covenant likeable or w.e and dont go introduce the flood or even hint at them. Trying to do too much is where these video game movies get it wrong. They think pandering to us gamers with more references and every character we love makes for a great video game movie when really its part of why they arent doing so great. 

  • Hellotardis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Russell Richardson

    1 month ago

    I think I Am Legends alternate ending was on the DVD Release. It was him realizing that the Vamp-Zombie-dudes were just attacking in full force in order to rescue the girl he was experimenting on.


    When he realizes it he undoes her straps and shows them that he's releasing the Female VZD and they take her away and leave. 


    I think I'm remembering that right. He realizes that he's been essentially terrorizing these creatures and abducted one, causing them to rise up together to save her. He is legend to the Creatures, he is their boogeyman.

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      This would have been better.

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 month ago

    Yeah i have to say WoW was Okay imo but yeah so far the only video game movie i can really 100% enjoy without just bust out laughing at the corniness are the Tomb Raider movies. I am really hoping the next tomb raider movie can bring the video game movies out of the slump.

    This might be a terrible idea but Saying all they were about what zack snyder did i think snyder might make a halfway decent video game movie. I cant think of which IP to sacrifice to him but i think he might make something that is not bad.

  • Seanical

    1 month ago

    If it counts, Wreck-It Ralph was the best video game movie, IMO.

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      You might be right.

  • Bekitty FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Just on the topic of the Warcraft movie:


    Obviously you're not going to be as into it if you don't play the game. You can appreciate it, but it's just not going to do as much for you.


    I say the same thing about this movie as I do the Ghost In The Shell movie, this was an introduction to what can be a whole new movie franchise. They tried to introduce the audience to the universe in a movie perspective, and I thought it was freaking awesome.

  • Sjmg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I love this show so much! I was worried that it got cancelled when there wasn't a new episode in a while but i'm glad it's not! I think it would be really interesting if there was an episode talking about movie trilogies and what makes a good trilogy/franchise 

  • HarryHenryTe FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    best video game movie is "the last bastion"


    • jclark2747 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Isn't that just an animated short? How is that a movie.

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      Yeah. You right.

  • Sunshrine FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

  • JewishT FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Last of Us movie better not get fucked up since Naughty Dog is working with it. Sadly, it might still be bad. I just want video game movies to be like Marvel's quality.

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      The Girl with All The Gifts is the Last of Us movie we already have.

  • milky-eye-balls

    1 month ago

    Some of the Pokemon movies were ok. 

    • jclark2747 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      That had a show to run along with so the characters were already known and such.

  • ProfEyebrow FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Never stop making this show.

  • BadNail FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold BadNail

    1 month ago

    Was kind of fun.

  • Wiseposterior FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I would love to see an animated Overwatch film. I have to believe that would be good. If they got that wrong there is no hope of ever seeing a good video game movie.

  • gwig9 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    So for a suggestion on the perfect focus for a video game movie... Why not something like a main questline story. What I'm thinking of is something like Skyrim thieves guild questline. That way it's focused on a small subset of characters, tells a short story that can fit in a 2hr movie timeline, and still has a developed and full universe that fits within well with the movie and can get by with little to no building.

    • Hellotardis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Russell Richardson

      1 month ago

      Not a bad idea. I agree.

  • ConwaytheWizard FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Conway the Wizard

    1 month ago

    There's already a great Halo franchise, and it's called Red VS Blue. Season 15 airing now! ;)

  • Sanunes

    1 month ago

    To me video game movies have been making a slow transition from not being very good to being okay.  Its definitely taking longer then what it took comics, but they are generally learning the lessons from the problems of the ones before.


    I have recently seen the Assassin's Creed movie and I have to give it credit for one thing, they didn't use any of the existing protagonists of the game franchise, for I think it would have been even more problematic if they tried to cram Desmond into the story.  The really big problem I think was that they decided not to take what people like about the game franchise to focus the movie on.


    As far as the Warcraft movie I think they encountered the problem that a lot of the more modern video game movies are going to suffer from by not knowing where to cut content out.  They have only two hours to try and develop characters and give us a good story so trying to tell us about content that can be experienced in hundreds of hours of gameplay will cause the movie to lose focus.

  • RichieRoberts FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I feel like Silent Hill was good for a movie adaptation of a video game and it was closest to the source material even if they pieced themes together from multiple games.

  • Llexis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Garona Halforcen. that's the half-breed's name in Warcraft


  • CashBanks FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Ok we get it Ashley, you and Burnie saw the Assassins Creed movie, then in the car ride home you spent the whole time talking about how everything was so smoky, they hired every smoke machine they could find etc. WE GET IT. TOO MUCH SMOKE. OK. sheesh

  • GaminginAUS FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always up for shite with

    1 month ago

    they need to hire gamers that love the game to have input on the direction...

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Duncan Jones is apparently a huge Warcraft fan though...

    • Jon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Risemonger

      1 month ago

      Knowledge of the game doesn't necessarily equal good writing, casting, direction or editing. It helps, but can just as easily be messed up along the way.

  • Shmittles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I think video game movies are going to be the "next big thing" like super-hero/comic movies are now, and the industry people making a lot of the decisions already know that, hence all the large-budget attempts recently. But no video game-based movie has broken through that wall just yet. Some have gotten close, nailing one part of the experience, but lacking in other parts. I think within the next 10 years, an all-around good video game movie will come out, and it could easily be one of the franchises mentioned in this show. Time will tell. Looking forward to it.

    • colespock FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      It took comic book movies a few tries too. There were a few way back in the day that are... God help us... could be on Theater Mode ;) And fyi I'm not saying that because moves are that bad, well they are, but I'm saying it because the budget was so low on a lot of that AH should have no trouble getting them lol.

  • MRKRABBZz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    LazerTeam could have been a great game, it was a great video game movie despite not being based off of a movie

  • CorruptOpa FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Jon.... Your timeline is way way off. This is warcraft 1 adaptation to the movie. While Karazhan and what not is apart of BC. This story was the first invasion of azeroth adaptation to a movie format which is outside of the game's lore. This tale essentially has nothing to do with World of Warcraft at all. It is literally only Warcraft 1. (also why its only named warcraft) I can provide examples and explanations. I agree the acting was horrendous, but overall the story I thought was fine.

    • Sunshrine FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      "overall the story I thought was fine."  You're talking from a Lore fanatic viewpoint.  I have experience with WoW from BC to Cataclysm and used to love going on the Wiki to research the lore and even I had a hard time keeping up with the story.  Imagine what it's like for people who are going in blind to the whole thing.  I agree wtih Jon that there was "this" story and also "this" story, but wait we're gonna show you the corruption of "this" character.  Too much to follow with very little payoff in the end because they're trying to setup more films.  


      I agree though that it was based solely on Warcraft 1.

    • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

      1 month ago

      Yeah i think Jon completely forgot that there was a Warcraft before Warcraft 3. I only played WoW maybe 20 hrs before getting bored but my main Warcraft knowledge is warcrft 1-3 so when jon was saying that this was WoW expansion stuff I got so confused and lost with what he was saying. You are 100% right the movie was all Warcraft 1. I have to agree with them that the movie was Okay and yeah a lot of the costumes especially the elves at the end just looked like bad cosplay. BUT i was able to follow it. My friends who arent warcraft people were so lost i had to explain it to them. I had a friend who was a WoW player since lich king but didnt know what was going on cuz all of this predated him. 

  • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

    1 month ago

    Jon,.. I can't tell if you're giving up or getting fired. You've never been this passionate, and equally obstinate before, on ANY of your broadcast before.


    if you're not here,.. we'll ALL notice, (quite honestly) and bitch about it for-EVER!!!


  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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    In my opinion, video game movies are best when they're animated. Of the four Halo webseries-turned-movies, the two live-action ones are dry, slow, and boring. All anyone remembers from Forward Unto Dawn was the last episode when John shows up. Sure, Fall of Reach cut out 70% of the book including the titular event, but it was still enjoyable and was a story that needed to be told to the masses not invested enough to read a Halo book. Dragon Age: Dawn of the Seeker was amazing. Ratchet and Clank was good if not faithful and I wouldn't say worth seeing twice. Final Fantasy: Advent Children and Kingsglaive were great, but relied too much on their respective games (I'm not going to mention Spirits Within since as they said it's not in the universe of any FF games and all it ever had going for it was its animation, which now looks worse than modern-day RTS games). Many aren't great, and that may be a result of distilling 10+ hours of interactivity to 2 hours you sit down and stare at, but at least animated movies can keep the visual style of the game.


    If you want to do a game movie right, put it in the same universe as the games and don't retcon them, and animate it, and it might be okay. 

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Thank you. I've been saying that since the Warcraft movie was announced. I don't understand the Hollywood logic of making something live action makes it better.

    • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

      1 month ago

      #U@%!N@ DITTO!!!

  • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

    1 month ago

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      If you're implying they're good movies, they're not. The first one was good. Then they broke both the canon of the games AMD that of the first movie with the second, and they got less and less enjoyable as they went on. 

    • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

      1 month ago

      DavidtheWavid   I AM implying the first two were good. My heart was broken when they went for what-the-fuck-ever was the "in" or "cool" trend...


      And I feel that after II (In game) was usless.


      They were trying for a poor grab at current tech and failed BIG.

      so yeah,.. that's it.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      @PhantomAC I can respect liking the first two. The second one was enjoyable, but the first movie said that zombies could come back if they've been dead for 4 hours. So how would people in a graveyard with no exposure to the t virus come back?


      I'm not even a fan of the games and it bugged me how they crowbarred what's-her-name into the story of the third game. 

    • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

      1 month ago

      Exactly,.. and that's why this episode carries weight with its' subject. It's a rare jem when producers nail the full body of the game they are producing for. So sad to be sure.


      RE as a game franchise, (or ANY game for that matter) can do what ever the #U@% they want,.. it's their perogitive. But when someone comes along and produces a movie from said game, they don't have that type of freedom in the eyes of the fan.


      Silent Hill II did the same thing as WOW the movie,.. they crammed too much from everywhere into a feature length film. The ONLY video game-to-movie that didn't make fans blow chunks was FFVII Advent Children.


      If there is a producer out there that wants to make a permanent name for themself,.. be the fan before making the movie.

  • SonofSigma FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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    Post credits scenes are what trailers used to be. They whet the audiences appetite to anticipate coming back for next time.

  • SonofSigma FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Need a segue for Blue Apron ad read? Dinner and a movie. My work here is done.

  • colespock FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Great to see you back :D


    Bioshock I think is the safe bet. Do a survival horror movie. Would scare a lot of people to see your first splicer coming at you on the big screen. Also I think the heart of the "movie" would be that yes it can be scary but its sad too. The realization of what the little sisters are and who the big daddies are could really work. Not to mention that most of the effects can be done with practicals!

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      But then the whole "would you kindly" thing and the moral dillemma of Little Sisters would be lost. 

    • colespock FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      I don't think it would. Think of it like this, Jack is john mcclane from Die Hard. He crash and is stuck in this crazy scary place. He finds a radio with one man willing to help him. That man tells him how to he can save his life, but he has to help in save his family first... and to do that he has to 'kill' this 'thing' that looks like a little girl.


      Would you kindly kill her...


      Then he founds out who he really is over the course of the movie and  bada boom bada bang he saves the kids at the end. 


      You would have to tilt the movie more in the way of "Am I responsible for actions I could not say no to.
       Instead of the games, "YOU have a choice to make." 


      But that's just me I think it could work. 


      P.S.


      Director:  Guillermo Del Toro


    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      Okay I can see that working, and YASS to Del Toro. But I think it would be better having a new story in the same universe. Maybe an underground city in the '20s. It doesn't seem like two is enough for the whole multiverse thing. 

    • colespock FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      Well there are three games. But the way I would do it would be to do the first game as a stand alone, see how it plays, but put Elizabeth as an end credit thing. So if the movie does well you do Bioshock Infinite as the 2nd Movie And the  Burial at Aea DLC as the 3rd bring it all around. :D

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      I know there are three games. Burial at Sea is practically a fourth. But it's still two cities and two variations on this story that Elizabeth says always happens. A Bioshock film could expand the series instead of just rehashing the Rapture thing a fourth time.

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    Wooo its back!


    honestly I think there are few games that could make good movies. The movies with multiple outcome types arent really the kind that could. More linear defined stories stand a chance.

    Then again Assassins Creed did shit.

    I think a lot of the time it can come down entirely to the games basic premise and the movie writers skill the most. A Splinter Cell movie (like the one they're making) has a good chance of being decent because its already fairly action-y and something hollywood does well already.

  • reese328

    1 month ago

    In my opinion, if the story were developed properly, and cast good characters, the Witcher books and video games would make for an excellent movie series. If they stuck to one of Geralts stories, and made a movie for fans and non-fans, with references to the stories for people who're already fans, it would make a pretty solid movie/ movie series. 

  • EricHVela FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Anagram for cHeValiEr.

    1 month ago

    Players have an idea of who their PC is in any game. Get 100 players to describe their PC and you'll get 100 descriptions. Story games, action games, FPS, MMO... Doesn't matter. The player character is the creation of the player regardless how scripted the character is.


    There is no single interpretation of a character that will get it right.


    This extends to the game's setting, too. Game mechanics, quirks and stretches of the imagination are filled in by the players. How a game makes them feel due to the game mechanics will be almost impossible to replicate in a non-interactive medium.


    Players want a movie that makes them feel like they do when they're playing the game. That's an exceedingly difficult task... unless they take a different approach.


    Stop using the player character. Stop trying to be familiar with the player's experiences in the game. Place the story in the game's universe, but take the player and the player's experiences out of the story and setting. Don't touch them at all. The closer that you get to things that the player might have experienced in the game, the more likely that you're going to get it wrong. It might disappoint some who won't get to see "themselves" (as the PC) on the big screen, but it's better than seeing someone else play them and do it differently than they would.


    Of course, creating your own universe and slapping the game's label on it is just as much of a bad idea, too. You have to make sure it fits in the game's universe but in a place that the player has never been.


    (Heck. It's a hazard to use PCs from a previous game as NPCs in a later game. That's a delicate matter to do right. The PC has to be heavily scripted before players will accept it as a 3rd party observing an NPC. A possible way is to carry over tones and mannerisms that the player chooses like they did in Dragon Age Inquisition so it's still a character that they molded following the appropriate scripts.)

  • JoshuaTaylo5 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Crazy Canadian

    1 month ago

    It's always fun to watch this show, especially when I don't have to skip it due to wanting to see the movie they are going to talk about, as that is the only reason I didn't watch the one about Logan, as I sadly have to wait for the home release for that movie.

  • MattBann FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I think there is enough source material that you could make an Elder Scrolls film. Classic fantasy that could be set outside the main games but related to events that have some basis in the games. Maybe along the lines of events that are going on in the MMO. Would require good writing otherwise it could have the same pitfalls that Warcraft had though

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      What would set it apart though? I think it would need to focus on an established character from the games, like the Dragon Age movies, or it'll be just another fantasy film. 

    • MattBann FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I think that is why it would require very good writing. You could do something set at the time of the online game, with three alliances fighting for control of Cyrodil and the white gold tower, but focus in on an individual story or two within that setting, maybe drawing ideas from the main story of the online game (which is Molag Bal related if you haven't played it). 


      I think it has the scope to be good if done right, and because Nirn is so vast there is scope to extend it beyond one film if it goes well as there are tons of regions and potential story arcs to explore