Podcast #384 Post Show

Rooster Teeth Podcast: Podcast #384 Post Show

Join Gus Sorola, Gavin Free, Barbara Dunkelman, Burnie Burns as they discuss gun control and recent shooting tragedies on this week’s RT Podcast Post Show.

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  • plythrghyrhrt FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    Cat keeping a couple hostage in their own house. Hilarious! I remember when that was on the local news, lmao

  • bluesmurph FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    7 months ago

    A few months ago a plane taking off in front of my plane had to stop because during take off some guy's laptop battery ignited. I can't even imagine what would have happened if the battery's explosion was delayed like 10+ min when they were gaining altitude.

  • NaRu7o FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hokage

    8 months ago

    Gus: Why am I weird?


    Dude, you can melt metal by touching it. You're weird.

  • MulanwithaD FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold MulanwithaD

    8 months ago

    The thing about it is even if we do have gun laws enacted, it wont be "TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM EVERYONE AND TRASH THEM" it would be stricter laws, and licensing and background checks and possibly mandatory classes to get those licenses. No one in politics or anything is talking about outlawing all guns. They are talking about putting restrictions on how guns are sold and put out into the public

    • darogadaae FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Seriously, I think all most people want is to keep deadly weapons away from violent, potentially crazy people. Like, make it at least as difficult to get licensed for guns as it is to get licensed to drive.

    • user-57672e03e074b

      6 months ago

      and guns that are already sold are grandfathered in so if you bought and AR15 before a licensing law to have it was passed, you wouldnt need a license to own it. what RT isnt looking at is that majority of the places that shootings happen are in gun freezones. Chiacgo is a huge gun free city. you have to go through crazy loops to get a gun and you cant even have it outside your home. yet there is a shooting a day there, reason being is a huge majority of shootings are from people with guns that are illegally bought on the black market. we will never outlaw guns because we have places like mexico that can ferry million across the border, UK or Australia doesnt have a place like mexico right on their border. also trying to outlaw guns would be the final push to a revolution. i beleive that if hillary is elected and she tries to full on outlaw guns, there will be a revolution.

  • Mandorallen

    8 months ago

    Let me make something clear about the second amendment. People act like assault rifles, grenades, and things shouldn't be included because they are more dangerous than what they had back then. If you look at the purpose of the second amendment which was intended to enable militia for defense of the country, they meant you were allowed to own a cannon that could shoot a 42 pound iron ball a distance of two miles obliterating anything in its path. If they could own a cannon why can't I own an AR15? Believe me I could kill a lot more people with a single revolution era cannonball than a standard frag grenade.

  • wrighteousjason FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    8 months ago

    Can confirm, don't stick your dick in crazy. Best bit of advice EVER.

  • Spins Whats in a name?

    8 months ago

    good video

  • Derelicta FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Forgotten

    9 months ago

    Also again, you can own a grenade, and an assault rifle, but you need licensing and its heavily regulated. Every legal machine gun in the country is registered with the BATF

  • Derelicta FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Forgotten

    9 months ago

    Also, recent studies have shown that there are more defensive uses of handguns, than there are offensive uses. The "myth of the armed citizen" isnt a myth, its just an unreported reality.

  • Derelicta FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Forgotten

    9 months ago

    About the guns thing, i would liek to point out that violent crime and gun crim has been on a steady down trend for about twenty years.

  • MarisaK FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

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  • Ry5an FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Gavin "how do the cops know you're not the original shooter?"

    The good guy puts his gun down, its a pretty simple concept.

    • darogadaae FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      In mass shooting situations (Virginia Tech, Aurora, etc.) the officers going in have a "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality - not that I find fault with that, but that's the reality. The "good guy" probably won't have a chance to put his gun down before he takes two in the chest.

    • Ry5an FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      But the good guy is there before the cops are. Also, the cops don't go in with a "shoot first" mentality. That's never how police are trained to deal with that type of situation.

      EDIT: save for specific sets of circumstances.

  • Ry5an FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Removing the guns by law won't remove the guns from the criminals. Guns are integrated into the American society and instead of trying to get rid of them, we need to learn how to safely own and use them.

  • pwngpony FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    love you guys, dont love your political views, im not saying dont have opinons, but maybe separate vlogs or something for it? Ive been watching since i was 9 years old and these past couple months are the only time ive ever seen it get political, and this is where i come to get away from the chaos.

    • Sparks_1911

      9 months ago

      I agree with you man, I used to come here to get away from all that crap. Fandoms and communities like this are somewhere we can come together and just bond over enjoying something, regardless of politics and everything.


      But ever since that certain Burnie-approved rant on Off Topic, it's become more and more common for the podcasts to turn into a place where they all agree on how much they don't like right-wing views and policies. It'd be one thing if they had some differing opinions, but they almost never do on this type of stuff.


      So for someone like me, it's just a half-hour of listening to four people (who I try to support because I enjoy their content) talk about how disappointed/frustrated they are with what I think and the values I hold. It just gets a little harder to ignore each time, ya know?

  • iamRayhan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    looks like they accidentally played gavin or gaggle at the end

  • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

    9 months ago

    a crazy man looking to kill his ex wife once broke out all the windows of my aunts home, most of my family and extended fam gathered to board windows and keep everyone safe. two of my uncles had guns, but the guns they had did not prevent the man from driving into town buying a rifle and enough ammo to kill everyone 20 times over. nor did their guns stop him from returning and shooting my three aunts. On top of that the gun my uncle was holding while "defending" the driveway actually prevented the ambulance from coming onto the scene (he was concerned because he thought the shooter might come back, his wife was shot multiple times, and the shock of it all) but the sheriff had to remove him from the scene, wasted a lot of time for the first responders. after this i realized those guns had prevented nothing and only escalated the situation, the "bad guy" will always find a way to shoot first. and you can't stop those shots, both uncles never got a shot off, and unless they had night vision Bronson esque handguns it would of been a suicide run to get a good shot, if any, at the rifleman. he was chased down by the sheriff that was called when he returned with the rifle. and is still in jail.


    to note, i grew up with guns, respected them. my also aunts lived (two still have non removable bullets) but yeah that's the day i became anti-gun.

  • Omega_Tron FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Not to get overly political, but one of the big reasons we never hear about some of these "mythical" gun savior cases is that typically, in mass shootings, there is nobody who has a concealed weapon, and in a situation with a concealed weapon, the shooting is stopped before 5 people are killed (the media threshold for a "mass shooting"). Guns are a priveledge, and those who commit offenses lose their priveledge to legally purchase a gun. An excellent book by Glenn Beck called Control makes many great points to why the media never picks up on these cases, and provides evidence from multiple cases in which a firearm owned by a civilian stops a shooting before it becomes even more tragic.


    Sorry to be political, but this is the truth, and it needs to be spoken.


    Have a great day.


    OmegaTron

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      9 months ago

      can you even reference two times a concealed weapon stopped a heavily armed gunman in the US? (meaning modded weapons, full auto, excessive ammo, body armor, assault rifles etc.) i could only find about 12 events since 1997 and only one was with a ar-15, the rest were handguns and like two shotguns.

  • hpfan_8890 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Just a brief aside, but I had a three hour talk with my dad about gun control in general and it helped me understand his motivations even though I still disagree with a lot of his statements. We talked a lot about situations with guns and how they escalate things and I argued for a lot but we ended up the conversation with a debate about the AK/AR rifles that shoot 100 rounds per minute. He agreed that they weren't necessary but that he wouldn't trust any government official to make laws about taking away those guns because they would end up wanting to remove all guns from people.


    I got pretty frustrated at that point and as I said to him that he (and the NRA) are just standing by doing nothing while all those murders are taking place and feeling bad about it but still doing nothing. I get why he's so into having a gun (he had to defend himself with a gun against a man who was going to kill him when he was younger) but it's so frustrating seeing someone who I think is compassionate and logical just ignore those problems. Although I did get him to concede on some points like that 100 round a minute thing so progress, I suppose.


  • davepusey FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Gavin's minigun scenario is already from a move...



  • AstroElephant FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    This conversation is much more interesting if you think of "gun" as a euphemism for "penis."


    "I haven't thought about my penis in awhile."


    -Burnie

    • AlphaTexan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Sanders?

  • TommyTatters FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Gavin, as a British person gun owner you can have semi auto .22s and shotguns, lever release, lever and bolt actions of unlimited magazine size, long barreled revolvers. The thing that stops shootings is not restricting gun ownership but having a license with mental checks and criminal record checks which stops the criminals and keeps people that just enjoy shoot, hunting wtc happy

  • RoMMeL12 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Guns have had an impact on my life. in that on 3 separate occasions, just the threat of brandishing them was enough to save my mother's life and the use of 1 saved my fathers. transversely my uncle, a metallurgist who made replica firearms had a drunk steal one from his car and shoot him with it. it's very complicated, but at the end of the day I still find myself pro gun. because even if it's not at my side when needed I would trust myself with my own safety before locking myself in the bathroom and calling 911 any day of the week.

  • janegatsby

    9 months ago

    I would love to see the RT podcast crew do the baby foot peel

    https://www.google.ca/search?q=baby+foot+peel&espv...

  • kperez18 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Kevin

    9 months ago

    Well people never thought the Earth was flat. The article Gus was reading said it was a debate that had been resolved centuries ago but it was never a debate, except among those drunk Canadians

    • darogadaae FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Pre-Classical Greece (until the 4th century BC), pre-Hellenistic (or pre-Greek) Near East civilizations, pre-AD India, pre-17th century China, and most aboriginal American cultures believed that the earth was flat.


      So yes, it was a debate, and it was resolved centuries ago.

  • Brserk1 Surgedude

    9 months ago

    @ducewilliams It isn't an assault rifle.

  • JulianFawkes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Great, great, great post show. Really loved it. Being sperman (Spanish-German, essentially never had a gun) made me really invested in the conversation.

    ...felt like sharing.

  • RWBimbie Keeper of Poems

    9 months ago

    Texas is flooded with guns.
    JUST Chicago had 2988 shootings in 2015.

    ~If guns cause shootings,~
    why does smaller-population JUST Chicago have way more shootings than all of huge population gun flood Texas?


    Huge population gun flood Texas Guns didnt cause 2988 shootings last year,

    small population Chicago Residents did.

    Sept 2015 Chiraq had back to back 50 SHOT WEEKENDS... Obama, media, and BLM didnt care.

    Who got more shot-
    ALL 'mass shooting' across the nation for the whole 2015 year,
    vs JUST CHICAGO in JUST SEPT
    (if you want, TRY to find a month that Chicago had fewer than national annual MassShootings)

  • FATMANtactic

    9 months ago

    Hey Burine a good guy with a gun shot a bad guy with a rifle.

    http://www.fox13news.com/news/174841617-story

  • nashcd

    9 months ago

    Aww yeah, long ass post show.

  • FakeRed weeb

    9 months ago

    I don't understand any logic people provide for owning guns, ever. It doesn't make sense to me.

    • jgman179 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I own a small handgun for personal saftey, and the best way I try to explain it is that I want to be able to take my saftey into my own hands instead of depending on others or a delayed response from police

    • TommyTatters FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Owning guns is fine, it's the mentally inept people that's the problem. It's drawing the line which is tricky, i'm not aware of any US state that has mental heath checks before buying a gun unlike my country where the police check i haven't gone mad every five years. The UK has ove 1.5 million legally held guns and last year a whole zero people were killed by them, it's all about the checks

    • JaseAlex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Is it safe to assume that you like the Right to free speech?


      Did you ever wonder why someone never came up and took that right away from you? It's because if they tried to oppress you like that, someone (probably with a gun) would stop them. Now, maybe you like to side with all those anti-gun stories the News shows you, and that's okay. You never have to agree with a logical pro-gun viewpoint, because people have and continue; to lay down their lives, so you have the right to disagree with what they're doing. That's called freedom, and this is its price. You can disagree if you want, but at least try to be respectful of the lives being sacrificed. There are plenty of places in the world with more gun restrictions, and a lack of freedoms to go along with it.


      Honestly, it was never about Guns, It's about all of us being able to stand, united, against those that want to take away the things we should value the most. Perhaps those things are being taken for granted, and we have forgot the lessons that 2 World Wars have taught us. So, maybe guns are not right for you, but without those who are willing to stand up for your rights, how would anybody hear you?


      Just a thought.



  • SweepDaLegJohnny FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Gavin does know that 'miniguns' are not legal to own in the first place and would not be affected by a gun ban..... right?

  • Flamehead_Blaize

    9 months ago

    How about we just make murder illegal and not guns. Let's see how that works. Oh..... Wait.

    • jerrybronham FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      bitch tits alert

  • SamuelF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    thought they almost mentioned blm

  • Ashenden FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Sometimes, i gag when Gavin does. I feel his pain.

  • JaseAlex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Thoughts on 2nd Ammendment Rights:


    Firearms are dangerous and require responsible ownership. Criminals don't care about any laws that are passed. There is a pattern to armed criminals hitting soft targets where they least suspect resistance. Turning the entire country into a soft target isn't going to solve the issue. There are reasonable measures that could be taken to keep mentally unstable people away from dangerous things. There are also Magazine restrictions that would prevent fully and semi-automatic weapons from firing continuously. This would make it so that Law-enforcement could bring someone in on charges, before an incident, if they owned a high-capacity magazine. The idea being that the only purpose of having that many rounds in one magazine is to cause harm on a massive scale.


    The police have firearms and carry them every day to uphold the laws. If one was off duty and they used a gun to stop a mass shooter, they would be a hero. The argument that stopping a mass shooter will get you shot by the police is an extermely rare event. The police would have to be there at the exact moment and for some reason not shoot the person doing the mass shooting; then decide to shoot you, after the mass shooter was shot. Technically it could happen, but unlikely. If an off duty cop can use leathal force to defend themselves; couldn't anyone, who is willing, be allowed the same chances against such naked aggression? One could say I have a hero complex, but to them I would ask: What if someone you loved was that shooters next target? Would you want someone to do something, if they had that chance?


    Let's be clear, there is a certain level of understanding that would go into a decision to carry. A decision that is not to be taken lightly. At the same time, there is a very slim chance that someone will be in a mass shooting. The best hope that I could possibly have is that communities work together with understanding and bring light to the hearts of those that would use dangerous things to cause harm; focusing on the persons behind the triggers, before they would commit such acts. There is a hope that we can just change the people to the point that we could trust each other with firearms as readily as we trust those around us driving their cars. That we work out ways to mitigate the damages as we grow with these and other dangerous things, that technology has afforded us.


    TL;DR


    Theory of the Raven: Sparrows fight often, because they can't really hurt each other. Ravens can kill each other easily with their long, slender, sword-like beaks, so they almost never fight. Humans are like Sparrows that (through technology) have become like Ravens. We need to respect the powers technology has given us; or be destroyed by it.


    Respect.

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      That is a better argument than any I have ever made in my life.

    • TommyTatters FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      It's the ease of access though, i have to keep my guns locked up in the UK whereas as far as i know guns are completely unlicensed and require no safe storage which means criminals can just steal them from lawful owners and sell them on the black market. They need to bring in reasonable storage laws and have a massive nation wide thing to remove as many illegal guns out of circulation. It's only the US that has this problem because every other country has licenses and storage laws, a vetted person is very unlikely to commit a crime compared to the current system

  • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Turns out concealed carry does save lives.

    http://kfor.com/2016/06/30/shooter-strikes-3-in-so...

    • SciKosis

      9 months ago

      I honestly can't think of anything more regressive than the idea that "Be ready to shoot someone first" is an acceptable answer to the question of "What if someone has the intent of shooting another person?" I'm not saying concealed carries DON'T or CANNOT save lives, I don't think many people are arguing the ability. What people, myself included, are arguing however, is that the ratio of shootings that have happened compared to those that have been stopped by someone with a concealed carry are skewed heavily. Furthermore, I don't think the second amendment would be coming under such scrutiny if it weren't for the fact that as of 2015, it has been reported that there are almost 40 million more legal firearms in the United States than there are legal citizens.


      Think about it like this for a second. I know I don't have a gun. I know PLENTY of people that don't have guns, and I'm sure that the number of legal citizens in the U.S. that own guns is probably less than half the total population. If that's the case, why do you need more than one firearm? Are you a hunter? To me, in that case, okay sure, different guns for different hunting scenarios. Anything aside from that however, and you've lost me. If you're not using them to hunt, what are you using them for? Just to look at? To me, that's irresponsible. A gun is a tool for harm. Why do you need something to harm someone that has such a high probability, success rate, and speed to kill? Why do you need SO MANY of that item?

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      That wasn't a gotcha comment. I just looked it up cause I was curious. It's not a 'be ready to shoot someone' thing. It's more of a 'I care enough about others to want to be able to protect them and myself" mentality. I'm sorry you hate gins and think that other people shouldn't have them. However, a law-abiding citizen shouldn't be punished for the crimes of another. People have that right, and almost all of those who exercise that right do so,responsibly. Plus, the city in the U.S. with the strictest gun laws, Chicago, has the highest gun crime rate and is one of the worst in prosecution and sentencing. And most crimes are committed by people who atained their firearm illegally. We have a large sample size test case right there that disproves your assertions.

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I'm not saying concealed carry will stop all shootings. That is stupid. But restricting people's access to a weapon only exacerbates crimes. It's proven, shooter's target gun free zones. Aurora, Orlando, and all campus shootings occurred in gun free zones

    • pikapp864 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I read many stories about self defense concealed or not, every month there are several... but no one knows because no one covers those stories.

    • JaseAlex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Not sure if this is relevent to crime prevetion, but are Donut shop robberies lower due to the preceived cultural bias that cops go there often?


      I know that's a just a stereo type, at the same time, it illistrates that perception can work as a deterrent. If a criminal were to try and do something premeditated, they would want to try it on a target where there would be little retaliation. This is why hanging "Gun free zone" signs might not be the best idea. To a criminal intent on doing harm, it might as well read "Welcome" because it's advertising a soft target. So, even if someone does not carry, or doesn't have a conceal carry permit; but they live in an area that allows these, might actually lower crime rates due to the preception that someone could intervene. Because it would introduce an unknown variable into the criminals premeditated calculations. Like the Donut shop analogy, it does not matter if it is true. It's a preception; and we have all heard the saying "Power preceived is power achieved."


      As a deterrent to crime in general, there could be lives being saved that never get counted...

  • DominicFell

    9 months ago

    It is very unusual that Gus's game is almost identical to a game I just played on my podcast. I did happen to record that podcast first but I'm pretty sure RT uploaded theirs first, so I'm not saying anything other that it's a pretty strange coincidence.

    • polmer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I've seen that game played very widely. On online media, and even in my high school gov class we would play every morning

  • Bjornum_The_Bored_One FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

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    • JollyPear FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I think that comparing death rates in that way can be very misleading. If I understand the statistics correctly --> Norway has the highest death rate but it is also a much smaller country with a much smaller population than the US which makes it seem different than what the situation really is. Norway has only had one mass shooting (22 July, 2011 Norway Attacks). That terrorist attack was the deadliest attack in Norway since WW2.


      The statistics can make it seem like it there is a much higher risk living in Europe but I think you also have to consider the frequency. Fatility rate and number of mass shootings (WSJ)


      And also, using Norway for this as an example for how "guns should be legal because european countries (that doesn't allow guns) have higher annual death rates" (which is kind of how I interpreted your comment) is kind of pointless since the shooter in the 2011 Norway attacks (Anders Behring Breivik) had legal permit for his guns.


      I only brought up Norway since I had substantial previous knowledge of that incident and I hope using it as an example can show that it's not always as obvious or "clear cut" as one might think.


      Excuse me for my english, it's not my first language :)

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Death rate accounts for population differences. Most statistics that account for population show the U.S. has a normal rate of shootings. It's because we have more people there are more shootings. The numbers are only misleading because they don't support your worldview. (Also, most common statistics don't account for cultural diversity which when taken into account actually would suggest that we have less shootings than expected due to inevitable social tension)

  • Bjornum_The_Bored_One FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    READ

    http://crimeresearch.org/2014/03/comparing-murder-...


    Also, If people were taught at an early age or in high school to learn about and to take care of guns and how that effect those kids later in life, I believe that would be an interesting long term scientific study.

  • TommyTwoLegs FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Canadian

    9 months ago

    I am a Canadian and I own an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, among other firearms. In spite of me being a gun owner, I fully support the restrictions imposed by the Canadian federal government and the RCMP. I sometimes take issue with specific firearms being categorized as restricted or prohibited, but it's a minor problem in my opinion. I've included some facts about firearm ownership in the United States and Canada. These are not meant to prove anything on my part, I just like providing people with accurate, unaltered information. Cheers.


    2014 Population (sources: FBI, Statistics Canada)*

    US = 318,907,401

    CA = 35,540,400 (11% of US total)

    *As of July 1, 2014.


    2014 Firearm Homicides (sources: FBI, Statistics Canada)

    US = 8,103

    CA = 156 (2% of US total)


    2014 Percentage of homicides committed using firearms (sources: FBI, Statistics Canada)

    US = 68%

    CA = 30%


    2014 Firearm Ownership (sources: University of Chicago, RCMP)*

    US = 22%

    CA = 6%

    *Determining gun ownership in both countries is difficult. Because the US government does not track personal ownership of firearms, voluntary surveys must be used. In Canada, since the dismantling of the Long Gun Registry, determining gun ownership has also become difficult. Statistics concerning possession of valid government-issued firearms licenses must be used. Please keep in mind that these ownership figures merely provide a rough estimate as to firearm ownership rates in both countries.

  • HarrisonFoun FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    My god these comments are full of vocal delusional gun nuts.


    Here's what it comes down to. You like guns. You want to keep your guns. That's your only honest argument. You're not overthrowing any government, nor should you be thinking about it if you're a sound-minded human being that hasn't grown up on lead chips, or and you're not an action hero so stop looking forward to using your gun to carry out your own brand of justice.


    It's not oppression to lose your guns. It's Mommy and Daddy government taking away your cool toys because the kids were bad and when you've proven you can be responsible, e.g. gun control laws, you can continue playing with your toys.

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      So, you punish your kids for stuff the kid across town did? Sounds reasonable

    • Brserk1 Surgedude

      9 months ago

      Well luckily for us the 2nd Amendment includes "shall not be infringed" and the fact that you are ignorant of it's purpose doesn't matter.

    • HarrisonFoun FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      We didn't punish Americans for what Australians did. That'd be across town.


      When was the last time we had a militia? When was the last time a militia was needed in this country? Are you about to say now and tip your craziness into public? You should. Just be honest. It's cool.

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Im pretty sure taking away our right to own a gun for something a handful of crazy people did is infringement of rights. Which is a form of oppression. And you are being very rude. You sound like a crazy person. The government is not mom and dad. Australia is across an ocean. And just because a crazy guy up the road kills someone doesn't mean the rest of the town are murderers.

    • MrPuma_Itsarealanimal_ FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      No, but talking away guns means no-one else from that town will be killed from gun violence.

    • Kalilaila FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Chaos Light

      9 months ago

      The Militia the 2nd Amendment refers to would be making reference to our Military. So we have had a standing Militia for right at 241 years. That is who we have to defend ourselves against should the government turn against us.
      Not saying that is going to happen, but that is the reason why the 2nd Amendment exists.

  • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Also, this country should be uncomfortable for a Brit to live here. That was the point of the revolution. And actually, once a Cop gets your license they do a background check

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

    • Squidney FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      The revolution was over two hundred years ago and we are allies with Britain. Did you ever go to a history class?

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      That was a joke. I wasn't being serious.

  • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Actually, Castile was shown robbing a store at gunpoint two days prior. Which was why he was pulled over. That's why the cop was scared

    • CPUandMe FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Formerly Firedash

      9 months ago

      Wrong. That was not him, he was mistaken for a suspect.

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Have any proof? I will admit that I should have put Mr. Castile matched the description and appearance of the man in the robbery video, however.

    • zanna29 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Here are 2 links where the cop's lawyer states "he thought Castile was the one of the suspects" :http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/07/...

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-thought-philando-cas...


      Amazing how well Google works when you not being a racist.

    • HunterK13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Who said anything about race?

  • LemonRaccoon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Love the content, great show as always, hear Gus' story about peeling a layer of his foot off, now I have to cancel my sponsorship and unsubscribe...

  • dchild59 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    What Burnie was talking about having guns then a class of “weapons of war”


    We have different levels of gun classes in Canada.

    Such as non-restricted firearms which is your normal hunting rifle and shotgun, restricted firearms which is your hand guns and AR-15s, and prohibited firearms which is full automatics and other etc, and you need to have different classes of licenses for each of those but prohibited which requires a lot to get and then the laws for restricted firearms is that you need a different class licenses and only allowed to show those class of firearms at gun ranges. My source is I have a handgun and my, restricted firearms license in Canada some of the laws are a little much for example when I am going to the range, I have to have a government issued paper to carry with me saying I can take my handgun from my house to the range and I’m not supposed to make any stops along the way and the RCMP have a record who has what restricted firearms but not non-restricted.

    • Neo_Baggins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Restrictions again only apply to those who abide by the law. Making it more difficult to get a cookie by putting a lid and sign on the cookie jar won't stop someone sufficiently determined to get one...not the greatest simile, but everyone should get cookies, I guess?.. I admit, I lost it on that one...

    • jadedhero FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold THX-1138

      9 months ago

      There are also different classes of firearms in the US, though the licensing doesn't work quite the same. It varies on a state-by-state basis, but the general rules (from what I've gathered through research and personal experience) is that there generally is no age restriction to own a shotgun or rifle (semi-automatic or bolt action), but that you do have to be above the age of 18 to purchase one. In most states, you have to be 21 or older to purchase a handgun. You may not carry any firearm concealed unless you have a concealed carry permit. There are several types of weapons (most notably burst-fire or fully automatic), as well as suppressors, that can only be purchased and owned if you have a specific license for each type of firearm/suppressor.

  • HOMBREoscuro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    burnie suck

  • Tozafa

    9 months ago

    Awesome, almost 45 minutes of Post Show!

  • ImAbetastic Ignite

    9 months ago

    Funfact: even though the USA is not exactly on the other side of Australia's floor it is still close enough for people of each country being more of the mirroring each other standing than anything else in which the closes point between them if any it's foot to foot.


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  • NavyDavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold NavyDave

    9 months ago

    First time I'm watching the post show, and I hear: "Hello, welcome to the Post Show, where we're googling stuff and talking." So i'm like.. isn't that the show?


  • woard FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    I find it odd that they think we are closer to banning guns when crime is down, violence is down and gun deaths are way down. Besides, at the end of it all your talking about punishing 300 million people for what less that .1% of the population is doing. Also there was a report done by the CDC, i think, that shows that guns are used to stop crime around 2.5 million times a year. I figure that number is inflated but even if you halve it that's still way more than crimes committed. A pistol carrier may not stop a mass shooting from happening but they have saved peoples lives so why would you want to take away that possibility.

    • CalumTravisG

      9 months ago

      'crime is down, violence is down and gun deaths are way down'


      So the US is now safer than ever, meaning right now you have less need of a gun for protection than ever before?

    • Neo_Baggins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      @CalumTravisG The sun is behind the clouds, so I'm never gonna buy sunscreen again and I'll throw away all that I own just in case. Crime is DOWN, not GONE. Your logic isn't right.

    • CalumTravisG

      9 months ago

      @Neo_Baggins Where did i say crime was gone? nice ad hominem there. it's easy to say somebodies logic is incorrect when you misrepresent it in the first place.


      Also the sunscreen analogy doesn't really work, first off, sunscreen isn't responsible for very many murders that i am aware of, so there would be no harm in keeping some laying about just in case.


      But to use your own analogy against you, what @woard would be saying in this analogy would be the equivalent of saying ' now that the days are becoming shorter towards winter, Why are they selling less sunscreen?' because the part of her first sentence i was arguing with was the idea was that in the situation where there is a trend of there being less overall danger, why would that be the most surprising time to not need as much protection?


      I never even said that just because crime is down that means we need to ban all guns, i was trying to convey that this is the least surpising time to want less guns, considering the main reason people us is that they are for protection. Less danger means less need for protection, or do you disagree with that?

    • BardicBrad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      But violent crime is down at a higher rate in places with tighter gun laws... And if the country is less violent on average, that should reduce the need for guns, at least if we assume the pro-gun mantra (self-protection)

      is correct.

    • Brserk1 Surgedude

      9 months ago

      @BardicBrad Actually violent crime is much higher in places with tighter gun laws.