This Might All Be Garbage - Podcast #438 Post Show

Rooster Teeth Podcast: This Might All Be Garbage - Podcast #438 Post Show

Join Gus Sorola, Burnie Burns and Jon Risinger as they discuss, even more Battlegrounds, Millennials, The Unconventional Documentary and more!

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  • DirkMcNealy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    As "millennial", I couldn't give less of a fuck what people think being born in a certain year makes you. Might as well be astrology. What amazes me is that so many people do care what the haters say. Fuck em.

  • bittersweetbee FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    People also get their privlige & oppression mixed up. There's a lot of people who are like "I'm white but how am I privileged because I'm poor???" Because they're facing classism but they still have white privlige. It's just separate.

  • Rad-Watson FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Thanks Burnie. Being a white guy millennial I feel like it's the original sin from the bible. I barely keep up on my bills and work long hours to try and get ahead. On one week at the start of the year I did a 95 hour work week and fell asleep at the wheel on a turn. I wish I could press the opportunity button and work a job with good hours and better pay.

  • atettenb FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Fuck you. It's an acronym, you can say it as a word. You're dumb.

  • azninjazn FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    i dont have a non-school job cuz idk wtf i wanna do

  • CashBanks FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Jon: "FPS on a console is terrible".
    Says the guy who owes his job to a FPS console shooter.

  • AutoPhox FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Some of the best conversations ive seen! I could listen to you guys all day.

  • Freelancer_Connie FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    On the subject of immigration:

    My husbands family recently (within the last 2 years) immigrated to the US from Iran as refugees. The process was ridiculously long and arduous. They had to live in Swizterland for like a year before they could come to the states. 

    The process is definitely not just show up at the consulate and sign a few forms and voilà, you're an immigrant. 

    I am for the legal immigration of citizens to the US. It's a long and difficult process for a reason. But from the looks and smiles on my husbands' family's faces; it is worth it. 

  • ToxicPlot FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Toxicplot

    3 months ago

    I still want to know... what the fuck happend to Gen Y??? for 20 years, I was told that I was Gen Y, and just out of no where we're "Millennials"?

    ....the fuck, dude??

    • EnderofGames FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Gen Y and Millenials are two different names for the same thing. Some people refer to baby boomers as Gen W. as well. The newest generation is referred to as Gen Z, and may even have a better name in the future. 

  • ducewilliams FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I think Burnie made an excellent point. As a 22 year old white male, the SJW people annoy the he'll out if he to imply that any thing I do is not due to my own effort or ability but because of my skin and gender infuriates the he'll out if me. I have had to work for everything I have, my family is not one of wealth.

    • CPUandMe FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Formerly Firedash

      3 months ago

      I think you missed the point my dude. It's not that you didn't work hard to get where you are. However, you being a white male does come with some inherent advantages, or rather, you don't have to deal with certain disadvantages that come with being a woman or a person of color.


      People don't wonder if you could do your job adequately because obviously "Women are soooooooo emotional."


      Department store employees don't pay extra attention to your because you look "sketchy."


      Police don't pull you over just to make sure "Everything is on the up and up."


      That's what white/male privilege is.


      What Burnie was saying is that it's hard to see it when you're living it, but it absolutely is a thing.

  • astricker2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I'm 21 years old, and not wanting to have children is the only thing I am absolutely sure about for so many different reasons. Pregnancy sucks, human overpopulation is really hard on the planet, I can't afford it, I'm scared to raise a child with the state of the world the way it is, genetic things I don't want to pass on, etc. But the biggest reason for me is that having a child is pretty much the only decision you'll ever make that is completely irreversible. No matter how it affects you, you can't undo it. If your job is bad for you, you can quit. If your living situation is bad for you, you can move. If your marriage is bad for you and you can't reconcile your problems, you can get a divorce. But once you have a kid, that's it. You are a parent until the day you die or, god forbid, until the day your child dies. Maybe it's just because I'm still young, but that kind of permanence scares the shit out of me. I don't want to start anything that I can't end.

    • AHHAWK FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      You have a lot of fear and worry.

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I'm 21 and I really hope to have kids one day, but I can't see myself having more than two, especially if I end up working in animation and have long hours, and the environmental impact of having more than two kids plays no small part in that opinion. But of course, being too busy to have time for dating and not being financially stable for the foreseeable future is a big factor of course. 


    I really liked how the conversation flowed with three people this week. Despite that, can we maybe limit the number of PUBG conversations to like three per podcast? It's like, every Glitch Please until this week, several E3 streams, and several RT Podcasts with multiple conversations about this game can get somewhat annoying as someone who has no interest in playing. Just my opinion, but going back to any topic five times in one podcast has to seem a little... odd to anyone, right?

  • HankMcCool FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    My brother who is only a couple years older than me and very much so falls in the millennial generation constantly berates me for the same subjects those trash articles do and asks why "my generation" does these things. Whenever he does this I have to consistently be like "its your generation too, why aren't you asking yourself this?" but he sees himself above the generation and not apart of it. He's also highly conservative so I think most of the time he is upset with activism and more liberal actions, and sees those differing views as even more of a divide between him and his generation. 


    Its a very weird scenario where he is asking me to explain the view of everyone, and sees himself as the exception to the rule, even though I cannot speak for a whole group of people just as much as he can't. 

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Exactly. After the election, my sister participated in a protest, and my somewhat conservative Trump-voting (also Trump-hating) dad asked ME to explain the motivation of everyone at that protest despite the fact that I wasn't involved. The media just mashes everyone into groups. Democrats. Millennials.

  • Pyro100 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I'm 28. When I was in high school I worked everyday to save for college, but I ended up taking out loans. I doubled majored, got a job, and managed to pay off my loans. I am due to get married soon and we are talking about a house and kids. It is possible, if you work your ass off. To me, what millennials don't understand is that you are owed nothing and that the majority of success comes from hard work. Everyone wants to point to different things to excuse why their life isn't how they want it while receiving instant gratification from every on demand service in existence. Good things don't just happen, you have to make it happen.

    • contentpants FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      You're 28, which means presumably you graduated 7 years ago in 2010. Again, presumably you started school in 2006/2007 where the average cost of college (mind you this is both private and public and does not distinguish between in/out of state price fluxes) was about $14.5k per year. Since then the average has shot up to about $20-21k per year. You said yourself even with the savings you had, you still had to take out loans, and prices have soared. Let's not forget that in 2010 the labor force was not as populated as it is now. Millennials are now the highest percentage of the work force, meaning your college degrees matter, but only as a barrier to entry rather than a leg up on the rest of the applicants. And millennials are now the larger than the baby boomer generation, which, again, contributes to those who want to work but there's literally no place for them to do so. 

      In my opinion, what people who categorize themselves like you do, don't understand is even with hard work some things are seemingly impossible. For a kid whose parents are working 2 jobs each and still making just above the poverty line, a high school job is to help pay rent or buy food, not something that can be put away for college. That same kid may have worked just as hard, if not harder than you, but had no options but to take out a huge loan to even ATTEMPT college. Let's not even go into the idea that the economy has changed drastically since you went to school and the loan rates are designed to screw you over more so now than ever. 

    • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

      3 months ago

      I am 28 years old, i have worked since i was 15, i worked through high school  almost every weekend and week day, didn't go to uni until i was 23, after high school I worked full time I held that job for 7 years. I had to have loans for university, i am still working on a degree because to pay rent i have to work at lest 25 hours a week meaning i cant take full course loads. My life did not afford me the privilege of saving any of the money i worked for, it went to rent and bills and food. Yes life owes you nothing, but everyone situation is different, and from my point of view, having the privilege to save money, is just that, a privilege. 

    • Kindyno FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      so, this is probably going to start a fight, but it isn't my intention. College education being a requirement over job experience is bullshit, but there is an avenue to get that education and job experience at the same time if you are willing to hold off a few years. I've met quite a few people that joined the military specifically for the educational benefits, yes there are some people that will not be able to join for whatever reason, but the complaint of school being unaffordable or saying that it should be a part of basic education never consider using this option. don't even have to go into active duty. Also it sucks going to school as a 30 year old surrounded by people that were in kindergarten when you graduated high school.

  • Mormra FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Dunno if Gus reads any comments, but if he does, he should try Divinity Original Sin. If he enjoys xcom/DnD, he will enjoy this.

  • Guy... FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    This post show had some very interesting topics of discussion :)

  • ethank FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    What you guys were talking about happening in China is called an increased dependency ratio. 

    it is also happening in much of Africa due to an increase in medicine.

    This leads to a lower child mortality rate, so the next 50 years will be very interesting for those regions.

  • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

    3 months ago

    I am 28, if I am considered a millennial, I do not have kids because they are not something I can afford.  I will never own a home, not with my student debt and no job market, and am almost sure I will always be working payday to payday. I will not burden a child with that life, and I will not burden myself with that life. Maybe I am selfish, but i can't see myself with kids because I can't see my own security.

     

    • analheroin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold analheroin

      3 months ago

      Up until now there wasn't really any telling if there'd be anyone who I related to on this subject, I understand this completely. If someone happens to know they're burdened with a mental disorder and knew the tribulations that came along with such a burden, it's hard to want to have a child knowing the possibilities that the hereditary trait will affect the child in any way similarly. Sure it may be selfish, you're right, it's not as if one doesn't build character and make it out alive through such an endeavor but to even unintentionally bestow that to another human being, let alone your own kin, is not ideal imo.

    • blancpage FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ModerateOccasionallyPoor

      3 months ago

      Definitely not selfish. There's a complex argument to be made both for and against kids during financial hardship, but either way it comes down to choice. Good for you.


      I know that feeling well.


      It feels like trying to achieve escape velocity. Efforts to improve my income enough to make a significant life change seemed to result in incrementally smaller advances. It took a radical change that bordered on luck more than due compensation for hard work to get into a position where thinking of having kids was anything more than daydreaming.


      Even then I was coming from a position of privilege. Because of where I live, my education to Masters was free, my healthcare was free and my small family haven't struggled for cash since the 90s. I had no debts and could take chances. 


  • mathius11983 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    So glad Gus mentioned that Shadow of Mordor was on sale for 4 bones. Snatched it up!!!!

    • blah_blah91 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Me too! Downloading right now.

    • NotFish FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hikikomori Gamer

      3 months ago

      Shadow of Mordor on sale for 4 dollars.

      GalGun: Double Peace for 9.99


      I'm not sure what my feelings are on this, I only know that they are strong.

  • mitzt FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Boop!

    3 months ago

    Aw, no link dump for the post show? I really wanted to see that dog/millennial cartoon because that sounds fucking hilarious.


    I can also say that I'm one of those people/millennials who says they do not want kids. It would depend on the person whom I would have a serious relationship with but ultimately I'm just selfish and socially awkward so that outweighs my desire to leave a genetic legacy. I even have a nephew and niece whom I love and can't wait to watch grow up, but the best part of being an uncle is that I get to pass them off to their mom/my sister when they become annoying or have actual needs.


    Edit: I can understand the point that Burnie is making about people feeling like they didn't grow up with whichever demographic privilege but based on my understanding of white privilege in particular, that isn't what white privilege means. The white privilege that people like myself experience is meant to mean a privilege that we consider "normal treatment" that has not been afforded to non-white people. Affirmative action is one of those things that has attempted to rectify this but has had the side effect of causing white people to feel disadvantaged despite the systems in place aiming to balance the opportunities that people have despite past prejudices.


    Edit2: And if I had listened for just 5 seconds longer before editing my comment, I would have heard Gus explain the same point.

    • hardnettin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      pis-spend2-millenmals-baby-boomens-baby-

    • mitzt FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Boop!

      3 months ago

      @hardnettin You are the hero we deserve. I seriously tried finding that on google images and imgur for about 10 minutes with no luck.

  • xompeii FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    does anyone have a link to the millennial fetch meme?

    • hardnettin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Found it!

  • honkysachmo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Noah

    3 months ago

    "white privilege" like you said doesn't mean I'm picked up in a White™ limo every day, it just means I don't ever have to worry about someone denying me entrance to or treating me poorly in a limo because of my skin color. Or for a more macro example, entrance to or the ability to move within a job position. 

  • detiger FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    As a furry, I can't agree more on how well gus and the team portrayed the fandom.  He was also 100% right on how most of the people that come into the convention to "interview" or whatnot, soley focus on the fetish side of things.  Overall that doc was awesome.

    • GnomeDePlum FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      As someone who "skirts the fandom" in a manner of speaking (and by that please don't think I mean I'm trying to distance myself, it's just that I've never really looked at myself as being far into it), I must agree that it seems like a refreshing point of focus. Just the word furry ends up with people making either disgusted noises (which is unwarranted regardless imo, even if you're talking about people's sexual preferences) or start cracking out the jokes. I guess I'm fortunate to be well enough acquainted with the fandom to not have that popular negativity, but also to not be in the firing line if people are being actively aggressive towards the furry subculture.


      It does remind me of hearing about how furry conventions would often ban media because of the automatic negative spin that came with any report on furries, which is a sad thought that people are so attacked for a simple hobby and enjoyment that they feel they need to resort to that just to feel comfortable.


      TL;DR Good for furries. Be who you want to be. There ARE people who have your back.

  • BABBS FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I know that the academic meaning of the term doesn't mean that someone "with privilege" will always have an easier road than someone without it, but in the real world I see that implication made far too often.  Burnie brought up the teen who hasn't really launched his life yet as an example, but what about the teen who has experienced genuine hardship in their life despite whatever privilege they may have?  I know I would be pretty fucking pissed if someone told me I was privileged if I were the child of abusive parents, for example.

    • WoodcocksJohnson FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I can understand that perspective, but the point of acknowledging privilege isn't to say that people with privilege cannot have a hard time in life. The point is that all other factors being equal, a person with privilege will have an easier time than someone without. Sure, for example, a middle class white person who grew up in an abusive home may have a worse time than a middle class black person who grew up in a supportive home, but a middle class, abused white person will have an easier time than a middle class, abused black person because of inherent societal problems. And people are quick to discount the idea of privilege and oppression entirely because they see some non-privileged people achieving a certain degree of success, but then that overlooks and hurts the majority that do not. 

  • XxHunter82xX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Got moar javascriptz

    3 months ago

    Automation is a hard thing.  For sure, it will end certain work sectors.  But one could argue that we've been doing the equivalent of automating since even before the wheel.  With each new innovation, it requires fewer and fewer people to perform a certain task.  But that would always make more things possible.


    I'd argue that the issue comes from a lack of innovations building on the previous one.  I mean, we'd have to think very highly of ourselves to think that we've reached some sort of limit.  It's kind of like when people in the past would say "we know all there is to know".  And I think the best source of innovation are the little guy.  And if you look around the western world, for decades it's been getting more difficult to innovate.  Hell, today you can't so much as weave hair without huge up-front, artificial expenses.


    PS: "Unconventional" was awesome!

    • Psykoma FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I dunno, the automation we've seen so far has been robots being able to improve what people could do, while the automation we're going to be facing very soon will be robots improving/mimicking how people think, which is an entirely different beast. 

    • killerrin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      The problem with Automation in the 21st century though is that it really shouldn't be called Automation, because that invokes the idea of large bulky machines in a factory that can't do more than one thing and break down all the time. This making people think that the entire fear of "Automation" is overblown


      Instead its called Artificial Intelligence and that is what should be feared. Once we have all of (or even most of) the building blocks in place, it becomes extremely simple to just show a robot how to do something and have it be able to replicate it to do any task. Give Computer Vision, Voice/Sound Recognition and processing power 5-10 years and we'll be at a dangerous point where we will have all the key ingredients to knock out large portions of the unskilled or minimally skilled workforce all at once.


      And that is what is terrifying

  • BardicBrad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I feel like the reaction Burnie was trying to get out of the Alison Brie, Dave Franco pairing is that they both seem not one another's type.

  • fergzlz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold FerGzlz

    3 months ago

    Has someone found the "Baby boomers vs millennials" memes Burnie is talking about?

    • 20miles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      They are everywhere really not one place to find it just be on twitter for a few days

    • hardnettin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      pis-spend2-millenmals-baby-boomens-baby-

    • Guy... FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      The tweet he retweeted

  • Jmk31 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Great post-show.

  • SamuelF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    wow i never thought of privilege like that....

  • RGunkelman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    GLOW is amazing! Only watched it because of Haus of Pain

    • Decrozi FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Anime fan

      3 months ago

      WAIT, they made a show about GLOW. I saw the actual GLOW. It was hilarious. Each group had a "Big Mama". On the good team, she was a Hawaiian. I can't believe they made a show about it. Holy shit.