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RWBY Volume 4 In-Depth Discussion and Spoilers: Finale Week

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  • revanninja

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    #33557849 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Garro

    Yes Penny is MUCH easier to bring back all they need is a local copy of her memories and a backup body.

    As for Pyrrha they cant go too long because interest will wane. 

    Most likely by sometime in vol 5 they will either hint or stinger Pyrrha's return.

    With her full reveal in vol 6 that way they bookend it.

    Her "death" in 3, her reveal in 6, and then her return in 9 with 12 being the final volume is the idea I have been working on.


    For Penny though there is a LOT of ways to play it from her not having knowledge of RWBY to her not recalling the tournament because her backup was too far back and so its from those times.

  • garro

    garro

    #33557865 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    Same here. How I want Pyrrah to come back ( this is just an idea) is during the Fall of 

    Atlas ( which would be Volume 8-9, depending how they do it ) is Salem suddenly 

    appearing before Team RWBY ( after they and reborn Penny defeat Dark Penny/ Malice)

    and summoning Grimm Pyrrah to fight for her. Then after she kicks WBY's ass she throws 

    her javelin at Ruby, only for Jaune to go "Noooo" and jump in front of it and hitting him

    instead. Team RWBY escapes ( to wherever's safe after Atlas), leavening Jaune 

    behind in the ruins of Atlas, thinking he's dead. Of course he's not and becomes 

    infected by the evil of the Grimm ( thanks to the javelin) and that unleashes 

    his Dark Side/ Tyler Durdun version of him, who wants him to defeat Salem to 

    become the new overlord/herald of the Grimm. At least that's how I see it. 

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33557879 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    Not even memories, just her personality.

    In reply to revanninja

    Dr. Polendina would obviously be Geppetto.

  • revanninja

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    #33557881 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Garro

    ...yeah I dont want that at all.


    See the way I see it is she is used to start a war with Atlas in mistral. RNJR KNOW something is wrong and they cant get close to her Watts leo are keeping everyone away.

    Then when their plan works they tell Pyrrha to kill RNJR. 

    Jaune goes in and fights with Pyrrha pleading with her to wake up. He is holding her off. She is better then he is no question but Jaune knows her style she taught it to him afterall so he is keeping ahead of her.

    But he screws up either because he keeps it up for so long or something else like rubble. 

    He falls and she goes in for the kill but he activates his semblance which is a shield and as it hurls Pyrrha back we hear 

    For it is in passing that we achieve immortality. Through this, we become a paragon of virtue and glory to rise above all. Infinite in distance and unbound by death, I release your soul, and by my shoulder, protect thee.

    And then Pyrrha looks up and says jaune? before Watts whisks her away giving us the clue she is in there.

  • revanninja

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    #33557883 - 6 months ago

    In reply to SAmaster

    Disagree but I wont debate with you.

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33557890 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    I'm just saying that there's already a character for a father figure who crafted Penny's allusion character. 

  • revanninja

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    #33557894 - 6 months ago

    In reply to SAmaster

    Yes and I disagree 

    Her allusion is clear but that doesnt mean her father has to use the same allusion.

    We dont know anything about him saying its Geppetto just doesnt make a lick of sense because for example Blake is clearly Beauty and the beast yet her parents DONT follow the allusion.

    Same goes for Tai in regards to both Yang and Ruby.


    So Penny's allusion doesnt mean anything since we have canon fact allusions not linning up like that.

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33557926 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    True. But it is still fair to say at this juncture it's most likely he's Geppetto since he's not more likely he's specifically something else.

  • revanninja

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    #33557934 - 6 months ago

    In reply to SAmaster

    No disagree for the reason I already laid out

    I won't debate with you

    From my phone 

  • garro

    garro

    #33558255 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    In reply to Garro

    ...yeah I dont want that at all.


    See the way I see it is she is used to start a war with Atlas in mistral. RNJR KNOW something is wrong and they cant get close to her Watts leo are keeping everyone away.

    Then when their plan works they tell Pyrrha to kill RNJR. 

    Jaune goes in and fights with Pyrrha pleading with her to wake up. He is holding her off. She is better then he is no question but Jaune knows her style she taught it to him afterall so he is keeping ahead of her.

    But he screws up either because he keeps it up for so long or something else like rubble. 

    He falls and she goes in for the kill but he activates his semblance which is a shield and as it hurls Pyrrha back we hear 
    For it is in passing that we achieve immortality. Through this, we become a paragon of virtue and glory to rise above all. Infinite in distance and unbound by death, I release your soul, and by my shoulder, protect thee.

    And then Pyrrha looks up and says jaune? before Watts whisks her away giving us the clue she is in there.

    Mine is more logical, but yours is "interesting". 

  • revanninja

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    #33558279 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Garro

    I don't think logical is the way I would describe yours no offense

    From my phone 

  • Alexshow

    Alexshow Time to change a thing..

    #33558309 - 6 months ago

    Just to bring this up,


    RWBY: Volume 4, will release on Blu-Ray and DVD on June 6th.


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    The DVD version is available for Preorder on Amazon.


    https://www.amazon.com/RWBY-4-None/dp/B06XKS41H2/ref=tmm_dvd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1491176828&sr=8-1

  • Spoolofwhool

    Spoolofwhool

    #33558388 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Alexshow

    Interesting how the art is a lot more anime-styled.

  • Asdrubael

    Asdrubael

    #33558546 - 6 months ago

    These bots make me wish for an Exterminatus upon this thread.


    Anyhow, wouldn't Merlot by a more likely candidate for a Frankenstein inspired character, since he is the one who is experimenting with unnatural forces after all? Watts reminds me more of Tesla based on appearance, even though he isn't fictional, but hey, they've used historical figures before.

  • garro

    garro

    #33558621 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Asdrubael

    I thought so as well, but I thought he'd be busy making new lab grown Grimm.

    Anyway, in the first episode of Volume 4, Watts was using a Remnant version 

    of the I-phone, so I thought he might have made the BCV to infect the Atlas 

    robots for Cinder. 

  • revanninja

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    #33558758 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Garro

    In reply to Asdrubael

    Actually Merlot is said to be based on Moreau


    Merlots experiments are on Grimm which transforms them much like how Moreau transformed animals into humans.

    Frankenstein was about creating life not transforming it.


    That is why Merlot is not Frankenstein their methods and goals are different.


    Watts may not be Frankenstein we know nothing about him outside his name is a unit of electrical measurement.

    But he does show some basic rough allusions that may or may not pan out.

    Frankenstein was arrogant like Watts is shown to be.

    Both are more known by their surname then their first Aurther and Victor for example.

    Both are willing to "Bend" the rules to do what they want.


    This is all rough and in the end may not be true but right now based on what VERY little we know about Watts a leaning towards Frankenstein does appear to be the case.

  • Bumblebee4life

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    #33558783 - 6 months ago

    so I just discovered that rat changed the first rules so that  first members get access a week earlier than everyone else... after they already said that if you had a regular rt account you could see it one day after first members.... what a stab in the fucking back.  

  • revanninja

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    #33558794 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Bumblebee4life

    Where did you see that because so far its always been a single day later.

  • Bumblebee4life

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    #33558801 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    Because the red vs blue episode still isn't available for non first members... they need to stop shoving first in our faces. 

  • revanninja

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    #33558803 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Bumblebee4life

    Actually I dont think that is normal.

    Because looking at the schedule it says 

    EARLY screening for first members.


    Meaning they are letting First see it now but 4-9 is the actual release date 


    Which is probably part of their promotion so I think its just Episode 1 is being shown early alone and the rest will be the normal stuff.

  • Bumblebee4life

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    #33558805 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    Hopefully

  • revanninja

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    #33558813 - 6 months ago

    In reply to Bumblebee4life

    Having poked around it seems like I am wrong.

    They did change it and the reason listed for WHY is so First get more bang for the buck.


    There was almost no reason to have First since it released on Sat got shown on Sun so if not a first you just had to wait a day.

    We saw this attitude a LOT with RWBY for example and that HAD to hurt them. First is direct money to RT and the service wasnt valued because the gap was so small.


    People may not like it from what I am reading but it does make sense.

    It makes there be a reason for First it also rewards those who are First by making it so there is an honest reward to signing up.

  • jVictor

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    #33558817 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja


    I did feel like the 1 day window was too small, but I think the full seven days is wrong in the opposite direction. It shuts first members and non-first members off from each other in discussion threads like this one. I understand that other services like Crunchyroll have this model, but Crunchyroll isn't really known for having strong native community discussions of its series, whereas RT does. I know the "Golden Mean" is a logical fallacy, but I think a compromise of maybe 72 hours would be more adequate. It would give the discussion threads a full four days of level ground to talk about the most recent episode without feeling like First members were getting shafted. 

  • revanninja

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    #33558826 - 6 months ago

    In reply to jVictor

    And I can agree to that.

    I understand all 3 sides of this.

    First didnt feel special

    RT wasnt getting more First aka money and followers

    And non-first feel this slights them heavily.


    The issue with the 72 is also ability to watch. So if an episode comes out on sat then its tues people can watch it for free. The issue is that is in the middle of the work week so its going to limit watchers.


    Honestly catch 22 on all sides.

  • jVictor

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    #33558829 - 6 months ago

    In reply to revanninja


    Well it's not really an issue with a web series. You can watch it after you get home from work.