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RWBY Volume 5: In-Depth Discussion/Speculation/Spoilers (All Things Must Die {FINALE})

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  • tin-foilhat

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    #33712273 - 3 months ago

    In reply to spoolofwhool


    For God's sake I am tired of this argument Cinder's act was in self-defense. With her dust and glass abilities Cinder could easily detained Pyrrha by just incasing her in a dome of glass or locking up her limbs. And even if you make the argument Pyrrha would have broken out Cinder could easily use her powers to block off Pyrrha's supply of oxygen until she fell unconscious. 


    I've seen videos where police officers are taught to shoot suspects in the chest even if they're unarmed. The idea is you want to stop your aggressor before they do you harm. You have a man on the ground and if an cop thinks he's reaching for a gun in his pocket he'll shoot him in the chest. That's the coldness of reality of the world we live in but this is FICTION. These events are planned out and constructed by another person at the helm. The writers went out of their way to showcase the level of Cinder's cruelty time and time again. 


    She doesn't need sympathy to be humanized. Jessica says Cinder was personally disgusted with herself with turning herself into a monster by the Grimm prosthetics she accepted from Salem but couldn't help herself. It adds a level of complexity to Cinder's feelings giving the feeling she's more than a two-dimensional villain. Cinder is a character that feels conflicting emotions but none of those conflicts are remorse for hurting others. She gets a fucking high having power and lording it over other people. Hell, she targeted Weiss solely because Jaune didn't care if she hurt him. Cinder had no power over Jaune in that situation until she threatened his friends. 


    I guess I'm one of the few who want to see her backstory. Not because I want her humanized, but from her fairytale origins, I suspect she must have come from a humiliating and abused background. I want to see what CRWBY has in mind that could drive someone so low and make them so spiteful. My curiosity comes from a place of perverse fascination, not empathy.

     

  • Atalante

    Atalante

    #33712316 - 3 months ago

    In reply to tin-foilhat

    It would be interesting if they made her the reversed, twisted version of Cinderella where she bullied her stepmother and stepsisters.

  • Dinobot01

    Dinobot01

    #33712368 - 3 months ago

    In reply to spoolofwhool

    In reply to WrightKnight

    And yet it has been confirmed 

  • Dinobot01

    Dinobot01

    #33712369 - 3 months ago

    New Avengers: Infinity War Trailer!! SEE IT!!!

  • WrightKnight

    WrightKnight

    #33712372 - 3 months ago

    In reply to Dinobot01

    The test for that is how many people outside of RWBY's fandom recognize Ruby or Crescent Rose.  The other things that RWBY lack compared to many of the other franchises that Ready Player One uses is longevity, as well as the backing of major corporations, like Blizzard.  Sorry, but Rooster Teeth is still small fry compared to them, and likely always will be.

    And to be frank, I cannot see RWBY being remembered forty years after it started, as Gundam has been.

  • spoolofwhool

    spoolofwhool

    #33712414 - 3 months ago

    In reply to tin-foilhat

    What..... ?

    I'm mocking the idea that people think Cinder killed Pyrrha in self-defense, not endorsing it. 

    Actually, I don't know why you're replying to me. 

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33712434 - 3 months ago

    In reply to WrightKnight

    My point was how little background we had from him, regardless of what it was. And yet Vader is as memorable a villain as they come. 


    In reply to Dinobot01

    Welp, this is horseshit. Not what you said, mind you. I do believe you. But by God am I not interested in the least in that movie. Are you telling me I'll have to force myself to watch it?

  • WrightKnight

    WrightKnight

    #33712443 - 3 months ago

    In reply to FettucCR

    I know, and my point was, of what he's memorable for, I'm giving the reason why the "redeemed antagonist" part of it worked out.  As for Ready Player One, I'm going to see it because of the Gundam, and I'm using a gift card, AND making a double-feature day out of it, also seeing Pacific Rim: Uprising as well.

  • GammaEmerald

    GammaEmerald

    #33712534 - 3 months ago

    I personally thought RPO was meant to pay tribute to the eighties but I think it would be cool to throw in a RWBY reference, maybe that’ll make RWBY more of a hit like how Smash Bros. helps show off less well-known characters.

  • Dinobot01

    Dinobot01

    #33712536 - 3 months ago

    In reply to FettucCR

    I know what it's like going to see a movie I don't want to see. One time, I had NO desire to see the first Taken movie, but my friends invited me so I went just to humor them. And I actually LOVED the movie. Just give it a try, you might actually like it. Don't knock till you try it

  • spoolofwhool

    spoolofwhool

    #33712569 - 3 months ago

    In reply to GammaEmerald

    The book was about tribute to the 80s, but it seems like part of the adaptation is they're making it include the more modern era. Kind of undermines the premise of the movie though.

  • WrightKnight

    WrightKnight

    #33712575 - 3 months ago

    In reply to spoolofwhool

    Part of it is trouble with getting some licenses.  They're using Iron Giant in place of Ultraman, for example.  Again, part of it.

  • user-572df514355fe

    user-572df514355fe

    #33712579 - 3 months ago

    In reply to Dinobot01 Wish the SJW community had that kind of open mind set. those idiot's make the reds and blues look like Albert einstein.

  • acw28

    acw28

    #33712603 - 3 months ago

    In reply to spoolofwhool

    A lot of it is still 80's culture, but there's some more modern stuff such as Overwatch and Harley's current attire (maybe the modern things are "casual" players not interested in the egg hunt?). As far as the Iron Giant goes, I thought that was replacing the giant robot from the Japanese Spider-Man, or am I miss remembering again?

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33712609 - 3 months ago

    In reply to Dinobot01

    I will probably see it, but when it's on TV, a while from now. But it's a movie I'm not paying to watch. And I possibly end up enjoying it, who knows? 

  • AenarTenthSkraeling

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    #33712613 - 3 months ago

    Hm, got to thinking on something. Adam is almost certainly a bull Faunus, I wonder if he could have some sort of Barbarian Rage style ability as a special ability instead of the more standard night vision that most Faunus get. 

  • ImmaThinkin

    ImmaThinkin

    #33712635 - 3 months ago

    In reply to AenarTenthSkraeling

    I think he kinda does.

  • AenarTenthSkraeling

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    #33712639 - 3 months ago

    In reply to ImmaThinkin

    In reply to AenarTenthSkraeling

    I think he kinda does.

    I'm not talking about how he's always angry, all the time, but rather something more like how Ghira hulked out against the Albain twins, with the growling and roaring like and actual fucking tiger and all that. Although with a bull Faunus I could see it get taken even further, with him getting a very noticeable strength boost but also taking a serious int-dump as the rage clouds his mind and makes him hyperfocused on whatever is the target of his ire.

  • Bumblebee4life

    Bumblebee4life

    #33712705 - 3 months ago

    I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW THINGS I REMEMBERED 


    I'm sorry since we're talking about the nostalgia porn that is RPO I just had to

  • Dreamsandweirdness

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    #33712778 - 3 months ago

    In reply to WrightKnight

    yep definitely. but even in their best case scenario where it was some sort of self defense (I don't believe in that btw), it still doesn't justify her actions. Self defense has to be proportionate and reasonable. Pyrrha was already badly hurt and couldn't walk, so even if done in self defense killing her was definitely not justifiable even through those lens.

  • WrightKnight

    WrightKnight

    #33712853 - 3 months ago

    In reply to mattcjx

    Tell that to those deluded fans.  We already had to deal with one of them, and in the end, it turned out to be nothing more than that OTHER POSTER coming over to the Pyrrha thread to deliberately bog down that thread with his nonsense.  I'll repeat what I referred to him as: a sealioning little bitch who just wanted some measure of revenge.

  • AenarTenthSkraeling

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    #33712860 - 3 months ago

    In reply to WrightKnight

    In reply to mattcjx

    Tell that to those deluded fans.  We already had to deal with one of them, and in the end, it turned out to be nothing more than that OTHER POSTER coming over to the Pyrrha thread to deliberately bog down that thread with his nonsense.  I'll repeat what I referred to him as: a sealioning little bitch who just wanted some measure of revenge.

    Can we please stop talking about idiots that aren't even here?

  • AenarTenthSkraeling

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    #33712920 - 3 months ago

    Huh. Just had a fridge logic moment. I wonder if Blake used her Semblance to escape from Trifa's spider web. I used to assume she just burst out with raw strength but teleporting/phasing out while leaving a clone behind could give an in-universe explanation for why there was no webbing on her. Also if her Semblance couldn't do that before then it explains why Ilia and Yuma were so certain the webbing would work.

  • Dinobot01

    Dinobot01

    #33713007 - 3 months ago

    I wouldn't mind seeing some solo moments between Jaune, Ren and Nora. Like Nora and Jaune solo, Jaune and Ren solo and a Renora moment. I think We need to see some more friendship moments between all seven of our heroes

  • GammaEmerald

    GammaEmerald

    #33713272 - 3 months ago

    In reply to AenarTenthSkraeling

    I thought it was Trifa getting knocked out causing the web to loosen