Real heavy. I moonlight as a concealed holster salesman, so we want people to know exactly what the full sized weapons feel like, down to the weight, when using our holster. When we demo at the shows, using the plastic blue guns or airsoft guns just takes away from the overall feeling.
For the love of drunk baby Jesus riding a motercycle, could you please get all that in one post? Try this, before you hit submit, stop, think about it, add the rest of the shit, repeat as needed, until you've got all the shit in one sock. Thanks.
Not a company so much as a group of individuals who sell a very specific set of deep concealment holsters. Specifically, the Hide-It, the Grip-It, and the Flashbang Bra Holster.
The Hide-It is the upgraded version of the Pager Pal. It sits inside the pants, below the waist, behind your pocket. It allows me to carry my full sized 1911 totally concealed without any discomfort. The Grip-It is a pocket carry .380 holster that fires from within the holster. The Flashbang is for women who want to carry but still wear form-fitting clothing without resorting to a purse.
If you have any questions that the videos don't answer, please feel free to ask, I'm always happy to talk about my products. :D
The creators of those videos are a separate group with whom I am not affiliated, but I assure you, the holsters are quite legitimate. Here is a more realistic demonstration of the Hide-It, and here is a woman using the Flashbang at the range for the first time.
my head hurts...for the love of all that is good and right in this world i hope those are jokes. otherwise you have 3 very obvious lawsuits in the works. the "wallet" what if it's pulled by accident? you have just caused someone to commit attempted armed robery. the bra holster, really? your going to have a wire frame resting on the hammer with the barrel pointed at a chest? accidental discharge anyone? now, the "viagra" draw. you have just told someone to place their finger in a loaded pistols barrel while they fumble to remove it from their pants. yeah...awesome idea.
either your a moron, or this is a attempt at comedy. either way, you fail.
The trigger is recessed well within the width of the "wallet." As long as you're not an idiot and put anything else inside the pocket with the holster/weapon, you're fine.
The Flashbang was designed by a woman for women to use. There is no wire frame resting on any hammers. If you actually WATCHED the videos, you would see that the Kydex completely covers the entire top of the weapon, from muzzle to hammer, and also completely covers the trigger guard. Only mechanical failure within the weapon itself will cause accidental discharges, and that is a risk with any holster.
As for the Viagra Draw on the Hide-It, this is not something you do on a regular basis. You would do that only in a situation where your life is already being threatened, and covering the muzzle with your finger for a half second is hardly at the top of your list of worries. With just a few minutes of unloaded practice, the draw becomes very smooth, and the speed with which I can draw easily outstrips anyone who comes up to my table wearing traditional concealment holsters.
I assure you, I am not a moron, nor am I attempting to be funny. But that's okay, I see dozens of guys like you walk past my table scoffing at what I'm offering at every show. This holster isn't for everyone, but unlike you, I'm not going to call you a moron or anything else derogatory for the way you carry, even if my weapon is more secure, concealed, and accessible in a tight situation than anything on the hip, back, or chest. As long as YOU are comfortable with how you carry, then that's what counts.
ok...ill ignore the flashbang. because it could be a strech for the hammer to be tripped when removing it, however that's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
the viagra draw, having worked in factories i can tell you this. a hydrolic press that cycles at the rate of 1 cycle every 7 seconds, only cycling when the operator pushes 2 buttons at the same time. i have watched people lose fingers in that 7 second timeframe, and that also shows you that if theres a possiblity of losing a finger, someone will do it.
and the wallet, it dont matter how recessed that trigger is in the frame, if he accidentally grabs that instead of his wallet, he has just committed attempted armed robbery. his finger don't even have to touch the trigger, just pulling the gun is the crime.
now answer this one, your being mugged, you have the inside the pants holster, how do you get the gun out with 1 hand occupied with the mugger? the holster takes 2 hands to opperate, thats just bad design there. you have left yourself defensless until you manage to pull the gun out, in the meantime you have left them with enough time to reach you and possibly notice what your doing allowing them to react. same with the bra holster, the only advantage you would have there is if the attacker is male he MIGHT be distracted long enough by the woman lifting her shirt...but unless he's there to rape her, then he probably has money on his mind.
if your actually selling these EASILY recreatable holsters, good for you...just be prepared because the time is rapidly approaching when some dumbass shoots hm or herself trying to use your product...even if only at the range.
Most draws from deep concealment ARE two handed. One clears the cover, be it a shirt, a jacket, or a zipper, and the other removes the weapon. We just took that to a different location and method, nothing more.
Tell me, if you're being mugged, and conventional wisdom says that an assailant can close up to 21 feet in 1.5 seconds, how are you going to get your gun out of a hip holster if the entire world knows you're going for a gun the moment you move both hands to your hip? Or, you could wear your gun in a manner that allows you to innocuously place your hands in your pocket (getting out your money) or on your cell phone (I don't have much cash, but take my phone instead!), and have your weapon out before the assailant even knows you're going for a gun.
If you've already engaged with the assailant, your attempt to remove from your hip means you now have a hot weapon outside a holster that is pointed AT YOU. Cooking off a round puts it into your hip, not his. My weapon is secured until I remove it, and when I do remove it, the way it comes off the holster has it already pointed outwards from the moment the trigger clears the leather. Cooking off a round means it goes into his gut, not mine. Add in the fact that in a physical confrontation, he won't be putting his hand down my pants, and my weapon is actually safer than yours, since he could theoretically get the gun off your hip, even with a retention holster. Even from a behind-the-back bear hug, where the assailant has my arms pinned to my chest, I can still remove my weapon and put it into his gut. AND, to answer your question, the holster can be drawn with one hand, just a bit slower. I would lift the cell phone case with my right hand, then remove the weapon with the same.
Again, I'm not here to say that this is the end-all be-all of concealment, nor that any other way is patently wrong, because neither would be true. This is simply another way with which we can be armed, be comfortable, and wear clothing that doesn't tag us as gun carriers. No jackets, no fanny packs, no big un-tucked shirts, and still rocking full sized 1911s. If you don't want to use it, then don't, that's perfectly fine.
As for someone shooting themselves with my holster, okay? It's not my fault someone didn't handle themselves properly with their firearm. I'm in no way responsible for the actions of someone with my holsters, no more than Glock is liable for actions taken with their firearms.
The guy who's in charge of the group with whom I work is looking at putting together his own video. I'm actually quite new with this group, still getting in on the fun. But when it comes down to it, this is a holster that sells much better at the shows in person. The looks I get when I remove that 1911 that no one even remotely thought was there, the shock is priceless. :D
Most draws from deep concealment ARE two handed. One clears the cover, be it a shirt, a jacket, or a zipper, and the other removes the weapon.
Tell me, if you're being mugged, and conventional wisdom says that an assailant can close up to 21 feet in 1.5 seconds, how are you going to get your gun out of a hip holster if the entire world knows you're going for a gun the moment you move both hands to your hip?
Wrong. Duty holsters on the outside of a belt ride on the hip. Most IWB holsters ride at the 4 to 5 o'clock position on the back of your hip. You sweep your cover garment aside with the same hand you draw with. That allows you to hold off the assailant with your opposite arm. The exception would be holsters that allow the shirt to tuck over them, and even those can be accessed 1 handed. It's going to be a lot harder for the assailant to try to reach completely around your body to grab your firearm during a presentation rather than popping it up right in front of yourself and within easy reach of them. Also, it doesn't look like you're going for a gun, it looks like you're going for your wallet in compliance.
If you've already engaged with the assailant, your attempt to remove from your hip means you now have a hot weapon outside a holster that is pointed AT YOU. Cooking off a round puts it into your hip, not his. My weapon is secured until I remove it, and when I do remove it, the way it comes off the holster has it already pointed outwards from the moment the trigger clears the leather. Cooking off a round means it goes into his gut, not mine.
Wrong again. With the standard grip forward cant of an IWB holster, even a hot weapon is at worst pointed at your gluteus maximus or the outside meaty part of your thigh until it clears. Neither is a critical or debilitating area SHOULD a round cook off in a struggle. YOURS puts the muzzle pointing potentially towards your femoral artery and/or possibly your groin until it fully clears. The bra design is even worse because you wind up pointing it at your own chest. None are areas less critical than those I mentioned.
Even from a behind-the-back bear hug, where the assailant has my arms pinned to my chest, I can still remove my weapon and put it into his gut.
How often do you think that happens? If he's got you in a bear hug, he can't grab ANYTHING you have. He has to let you go in order to reach anything valuable, the point of the exercise. He's going to be more likely to knock you in the back of the head if approaching you from behind. Something NEITHER holster method is going to do much about. Not to mention, the bear hug is one of the easiest holds to break by even untrained people.
Again, I'm not here to say that this is the end-all be-all of concealment, nor that any other way is patently wrong, because neither would be true.
We are in agreement on this point.
This is simply another way with which we can be armed, be comfortable , and wear clothing that doesn't tag us as gun carriers.
Your own commercials make me skeptical of that claim because I see you demonstrating it with nothing but lightweight props.
If you don't want to use it, then don't, that's perfectly fine.
Thank's for advocating my position I do plan to continue with my current choices.
Like I said, not my commercials, and we use either the true-weight demo guns or zip tied real guns. Other videos online do show people demonstrating with actual guns as well. Also, I'd LOVE to see you try to get to your tucked under the shirt holster faster than I can get to my Hide-It weapon. I can assure you, I will win. >:D
As for your criticisms, well, I have to go to work now, so I can't hit them all in full depth. But the wet noodle arm defense is a great way to find yourself on the ground with a dislocated shoulder, the 5 o'clock carry is totally inaccessible to you if you're being robbed from behind (ATM, parking lot), the bear hug DOES happen a decent bit as reported by the many cops who buy our holster, the weapon being on your front means you don't have to bring it up to that point to shoot which results in a hot weapon moving all over the place, the trigger is still entirely covered while the barrel is pointed to my critical areas and only becomes available AFTER the weapon clears that area entirely, I wasn't talking about when the hip weapon was in the holster but instead after it clears the holster and its trigger is now accessible, especially when you consider most people have to torque their belt down which pushes the barrel even closer to themselves.
If you want to continue carrying the way you do already, then good on ya. Thank you for not immediately calling me a moron for simply doing something a little different that is both effective and comfortable for both me and my many customers. I would however challenge you to see if there's anyone in your local area who sells these at shows and see first-hand how one of them demos and feels. You might just be surprised. ;)
All questions I get on a daily basis during the shows, albeit in a significantly more intelligent delivery here. Usually at the shows it's something along the lines of "YA BUT DOESN'T IT CRUSH YER NUTS!?" You tailor your response to the audience, and with an audience here that obviously knows its shit, I try to give the most descriptive answers I can when possible.
My favorite is by far my BUL M-5 1911 style .45. I actually came into it by total luck, part of my initial purchase of firearms, and I can assure you, I will NEVER sell it. I could be living in a cardboard box, and I'll still have this gun with me. :D