It dawned on my that I've become unsatisfied with how RvB has been coming along lately. Does anyone feel like the Red team and the Blue team have stopped being the focus of the show and now everything is focused on the Freelancers?
I mean there's been a whole new team of character's that were introduced in Season 9 and even during Reconstruction and season 8, the original character have been denied any kind of development.
In Reconstruction, Season 8, and Season 9, the Red Team were there the whole time and didn't do shit except drive the Warthog 3 - 4 times, get beat up, and at the most deleted the Blue team. And what major impact did that have? The Red team seems definitely overshadowed in terms of impact on the plot. Note even, that the characters Grif, Simmons, and Sarge never accomplish anything separately or are single-handily faced with any conflict except for the rare exception of Sarge.
I just don't see the point of creating new, cooler, character when there has been practically nothing for the old characters to do.
Except for the part where they ambushed Wash, kicked his ass and saved Simmons in S8. And the S8 finale, where they took out the Meta. Those were primarily the Reds. Caboose was the catalyst for the Epsilon arc. Tucker was... ok.. not as much with Tucker, I'll admit. But while there was less focus on them, you can't honestly say that they did nothing of consequence. The Reds proved themselves to be surprisingly capable when motivated. Much as I adore Wash, I love the scene where Grif mowed him down in the Warthog. For as badass as Wash is, the Reds really humiliated him there.
You have a point, I may have not given enough credit to the Red's, but I feel like there's still not enough of depth shined on any of the Red's. I mean, I'm certain everyone can agree that Church being the protagonist and Tucker and Caboose each being unique supporting character's really doesn't balance with the Red team's lack of moving the plot.
What I really want to ask is; Do you really want to see new characters or more about the old character you know and love?
Does anyone really feel like Grif, Simmon's, Sarge, and Donut have had the significant and defining roles that they deserve?
I guess that depends. A new character could stir them up, thus causing events that teach us more about them. That's what happened with Church, really. Maybe Red team is just waiting their turn?
I actually liked the change of pace with the freelancers. The blues are actually the main character team. With Tex and Church being on there but in all of s8 it was the reds who saved everyone. Season 8 & and 9 were the best so far. The CGI has improves RvB a lot. I mean I wouldn't be watching it anymore if it was just standing and talking for 9 seasons.
That is the gamble that must be taken when writing a series, particularly one that has gone on as long as RvB has. Change. You have to be different enough to reel in both new and old fans, while not going so overboard as to drive old fans away. Storytelling is damn tricky. Trickiest part isn't the wordcraft or the effects. It's making it work for the audience. They decide if you are ultimately successful or not.
Problem is: you can't satisfy everyone. So... satisfy as many as possible.
I hate the people that are like "this CGI sucks itsnit even RvB anymore" The CGI filled the only thing that was missing. Action. It had a good storyline. It had comedy. Now it has that much needed action parts as well.
I was most impressed with this most recent season. For a while, ever since they started talking about the freelancers, and with the way Wash and the meta were, not to mention the AIs, I began to wonder, where did it all come from, how did it get there. In the beginning of RvB they kinda summed up how most of the basic team members of R and B got there, but when Tex came along and Church began talking about her from his past, I wondered what all had gone on, and how he knew her, because the other seasons just didn't make up for a good enough description on what it was that had been between them. When they killed off the director with the EMP and how it revealed that his name was the same as church's, it through a whole nother loop into the mix, grabbing my curiosity of the past even more. This brought up answers to questions that I believe alot of fans may have been scratching their heads at since Tex arrived.
The Reds, they saw alot of action, and even though they each weren't specifically an important role in the way that the blues were, I believe that without them alot of what happened could not have without their help, and would not have made much sense. It is for this reason that I think that the Red team all together plays a single role, they make up one character together that itself has the same level of importance as the members of blue. I have a good feeling that this will come into play in the next season, that they will be forced with the greatest challenge of all, and may end up being the final key in the plot for the season itself.
I find the freelancer's story interesting, but I'd rather see more about the blues and reds. I've got nostalgia for seasons 1-5, when the reds and blues where still fighting, but knew that there was some kind of conspiracy.
I hope that if they continue with the freelancer program story, they will at least show how they started the red vs blue war. I'm still hoping that the blood gulch crew will expose freelancer to the red and blue army, so that they can work together to get revenge on whatever is left of Freelancer.
That's already been explained, the reds and blues are part of the training program for project freelancer. The only people not aware of that are the reds and blues themselves, aside from the blood gulch crew.
Grif actually explained what happened in season 1.
They were told that The Great War was over (thanks to The Master Chief) and that a civil war had broken out between factions calling themselves 'Reds' and 'Blues'. From what Sarge said, they were also fed a lot of lies about atrocities being committed by the other side to inflame anger and motivate them to fight. It is likely that they were also kept cut off from all but authorised communications to stop anyone from realising that it was a huge play-pen for The Director's creations and his ambitions to bring back Allison.
