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Causes of and solutions for electronic interference [ 1 ]
DiMono
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#1   Posted 4 weeks ago
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I've had an old 8-track system hooked up to my computer for years now as an amp. The sound transmission material in it is gold, which is lossless, which is perfect. However, recently the 8-track has started doing an intermittent staccato buzzing sound that lasts on-and-off for a couple seconds, then goes away for sometimes minutes, sometimes days. Does anyone know what causes this?

I've also noticed an identical sound coming from my old discman which I use to play CDs in my car, but I'm pretty sure it's just coincidence and the two aren't actually related.
Spamman4587
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#2   Posted 4 weeks ago
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Possible Cell Phone interference. Is your Blackberry from work turned on and near you when you're using it? Smart phones send out and receive data constantly, not just when you make a call or when you send a message or receive a message.
NJ_Devils
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#3   Posted 4 weeks ago
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Probably just any kind of Radio/electric interference.
raz0rblade
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#4   Posted 4 weeks ago
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I used to have the same problem with the old Yamaha amp that's been in the house since forever. Could be a grounding problem, which is common in all those older setups.
maureenlynn
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#5   Posted 4 weeks ago
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I've never heard of the blackberry thing (because I've never owned anything more futuristic than a $19.99 flip phone), but once you rule that out I would bet you that it 's a wiring problem.
realdeal_55
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#6   Posted 4 weeks ago
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Ditto to Spammman. If they're within a few metres, phones on the Rogers network in Canada (and Verizon in the US, I believe) will make anything with speakers make that "staccato buzzing sound" you described whenever they send or receive a call or text message.

There's really no solution to it, but try testing out that theory. It's a fairly distinct pattern when the phone-clicking sound happens.
Fhajad
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#7   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In reply to realdeal_55, #6:

Verizon doesn't. Sprint and shit does though.

I used my cell phone with Verizon during full blown shows on a variety of soundboards with no issue.
Dadgbe
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#8   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In case you don't know what it sounds like, this video has a good example of cell phone interference at about 0:31.
Fhajad
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#9   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In reply to Dadgbe, #8:

I once had a Sprint phone leaning up against my CRT monitor, and when it went off, it fucked up my speakers and my monitor hardcore.
DiMono
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#10   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In reply to Dadgbe, #8:

Yep, that's the sound. Good to know my shit's not fucked up
badgerW
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#11   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In reply to Fhajad, #7:
In reply to realdeal_55, #6:

Verizon doesn't. Sprint and shit does though.

I used my cell phone with Verizon during full blown shows on a variety of soundboards with no issue.

I think it depends on the equipment in use. It happens readily with standard unshielded, unbalanced audio cables (analog RCA cables, headphone cables). If you are using pro equipment, the cables are usually balanced (XLR) and well-shielded. I'm not sure if the balanced thing makes a difference or not, but part of the reason for using balanced audio cables is supposed to be their resistance to interference.

If you really want to hear a wacky sound, have someone call you on your cell phone. The "boop-da-ta-boop da-ta-boop" noise happens every few minutes when your cell phone checks in with the cell tower (or vice versa). When a connection is being established, it's like a long, loud, continuous buzz. Fortunately it goes away once the connection has been established. But for several years at work I could tell when my phone was going to go off, before it actually started ringing, because of the audio interference. Things are a lot better now that I'm running a TOSLINK cable from my compy to my audio receiver.

Here's an article that traces the causes a little bit more:

www.smartdevicecentral.com/article/that+crazy+gsm+buzz/199379_1.aspx
DiMono
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#12   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In reply to badgerW, #11:

Unfortunately for me, the connecting cables between the amp and the speakers are built in to the speakers, so unless I want to dismantle them and replace the cabling that way there's nothing I can do. I guess I'll just have to, I don't know, turn my phone off when I'm at home.
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#13   Posted 3 weeks ago
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In reply to DiMono, #12:

You could build a grounded Faraday cage around the unit. Not practical, but that would be the only other way without shielding the cables themselves.
johnnyricoMC
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#14   Posted 3 weeks ago
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I guess you could wrap tinfoil around the wires' plastic shielding.
Won't do much about the internal wires, but who knows?

And I agree with everyone else, it does sound like cell phone interference.
DiMono
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#15   Posted 3 weeks ago
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This thread is now about causes of and solutions for electronic interference in general. Title has been changed appropriately.
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