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JayCee
ImperalBaker
#31   Posted 1 year ago
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Did anyone catch new Robert Downey, Jr. Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows? I swear there was a shout out to the BBC's show.

During a scene Sherlock leaves Watson a note and I wish I could remember the exact wording but my mind;s gone blank, but you remember the text "Come quickly, if convienant, if not convienant, come anyway". The note said the same thing only they changed up the 'come anyway' but it was played up the same way as the scene in the tv show.
DoNothing69
#32   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #31:

It's a quote from the original stories. Arthur Conan Doyle wrote it.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#33   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to DoNothing69, #32:

I don't remember it, neither does my parents, which book was it in?
DoNothing69
#34   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #33:

"Come at once if convenient. If inconvenient, come all the same." Is the original quote, it's from The Creeping Man
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#35   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to DoNothing69, #34:

I know what book I'm rereading then... still, interesting that Guy chose to also use that line.
Longshanks77
#36   Posted 1 year ago
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Can't wait for the new season to start. Apparently next month!
Longshanks77
#37   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Longshanks77, #36:
Can't wait for the new season to start. Apparently next month!

www.denofgeek.com/television/1160119/sherlock_series_2_episode_1_a_scandal_in_belgravia_spoilerfree_review.html

Knew I read it somewhere... and if you believe in the accuracy of Wikipedia.. it airs on January 1st.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#38   Posted 1 year ago
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Clip from upcoming episode Scandal in Belgravia
Longshanks77
#39   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #38:

I will be watching.. forgot how much I loved the soundtrack for this series.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#40   Posted 1 year ago
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I will be watching it a day later since I can't wait for it to come to the us.

Which reminds me, need to figure out how to hook my laptop up to my tv...
timmanus
#41   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #40:

Does the laptop have an HDMI output?
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#42   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to timmanus, #41:

Yes, not sure about tv though. Mostly this is just a 'me being lazy' thing. I'd be happy to watch Sherlock on my laptop but parents want to watch it and don't want to wait either.
datalaughing
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#43   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #40:

I do (or did before my laptop died) that with one of these. S video and audio jack at one end to go into the laptop, and red, yellow, white component video at the other end for the tv, As long as your laptop's video card can handle two monitors, it works great.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#44   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to datalaughing, #43:

I'll keep that in mind, thanks. Still been too lazy to work out the mechanics of this, will probably end up doing so on jan 1st.
datalaughing
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#45   Posted 1 year ago
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Just finished the new episode. The show continues to be quite excellent. Though I think I will need to rewatch the thing before I'm entirely sure what I think of this incarnation of Irene Adler. She did play Sherlock like a fiddle, though, which was hilarious.

I feel terrible for that poor little ME, though. I really hope she turns out to be evil or something, because if she's exactly what she seems, then that's just pretty much the saddest thing ever.
Ar7emis
#46   Posted 1 year ago
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One of the most well-crafted pieces of television I've seen for years, they did a fantastic job with the script, camerawork, music and plot twists. I absolutely loved it, proves that it wasn't just a one-hit-wonder in 2010.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#47   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to datalaughing, #45:

You said on another thread how you don't like how Irene is always turned into such a romantic interest for Sherlock because she wasn't really one in the books but something was pointed out to me last night. Doyle never wrote Sherlock a real love interest because he admitted he didn't know how to write romance. He was writing detective stories, that's what he was good at. The problem became that after dozens of books the audience realizes that a lot of time has gone by and the closest thing to a love interest was Irene. This could be taken that since Sherlock is so, erm, vulcan-like that he doesn't ever find having a relationship interesting enough to give one a shot. You could say that since the stories are all told from Watson's perspective he leaves out any referneces to Sherlock's relationships because, like Doyle, he can't write romance worth crap as well.

I don't think Doyle would mind several of the different incarnations of Irene as a type of romantic interest because, let's face it, if Sherlock was going to fall for someone it would be a person like Irene. Someone who is just as smart, clever, and in the case of the new Sherlock almost completely opposite him in regards to how they express their sexuality. And let's face it... Irene was the original Catwoman to Sherlock's Batman. Even Christie gave Peirot the jewel thief love interest. It just works... literally speaking. In real life, yeah, that's gonna end bad.
Shura0107
#48   Posted 1 year ago
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I think this incarnation of Irene works best as a love interest. Moreso than the movie one. She was the one woman that bested him in the books, and Holmes has only lost twice.

If there were to be any interest from Holmes to Adler, is because he wants to know how she out smarted him, and the continual mental challenge that she represents. Once she is no longer the engima wrapped in a conundrum, he will ditch her.
DoNothing69
#49   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #47:

Based on the information in the books Irene was the closest Sherlock ever came to a romantic interest. He met his intellectual equals on a couple of occasions but never a woman and never did he think of them so fondly. He eventually beat even his fiercest foe but Adler always eluded him. She is the one that got away and even to Holmes that is an attractive quality.

I have no problem with various adaptations taking the relationship and speeding it up to fit their story. Better than entirely inventing a tacked on romance with a brand new character.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#50   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Shura0107, #48:

You really think he'd be that crass?

In reply to DoNothing69, #49:

Exactly, Irene is there and perfect, all that needed was a little gasoline to be thrown on the fire.

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But I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Mrs. Hudson, sneaky old lady she is. And it showed beautifully that there are few people in his world Sherlock truely cares about, she's one of them, and he has the emotional capacity to feel love because throwing that guy out the window was pure unadulterated vengance for the beating she took.
Shura0107
#51   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #50:

He did lose track of how many times he fell out of the window.
datalaughing
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#52   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to DoNothing69, #49:

"Always eluded him." Is a little overly poetic. She appears once, and she beats him by leaving the country with her new husband (who she is so deeply in love with that Holmes and the King of Bohemia decide they don't have to worry about her revealing the picture they were after in the first place and let her go) more quickly than Holmes anticipated once they realize he's after her. "Intellectual equal" is also pushing it, since her main accomplishment was figuring out that the mysterious guy who had been in her house was Sherlock Holmes (because she followed him when he left), and deciding it would be best to leave town quickly. Hardly stretching the bounds of intelligence.

In reply to JayCee, #47:

It's not a matter of romantic adventures with Holmes being omitted. The short story in which Irene appears is the very first short story about Holmes that was published, and Watson explains Holmes' outlook on the subject very clearly, setting one of the foundation stones for what the character would be.
It was not that he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler. All emotions, and that one particularly, were abhorrent to his cold, precise but admirably balanced mind. He was, I take it, the most perfect reasoning and observing machine that the world has seen, but as a lover he would have placed himself in a false position. He never spoke of the softer passions, save with a gibe and a sneer. They were admirable things for the observer--excellent for drawing the veil from men's motives and actions. But for the trained reasoner to admit such intrusions into his own delicate and finely adjusted temperament was to introduce a distracting factor which might throw a doubt upon all his mental results. Grit in a sensitive instrument, or a crack in one of his own high-power lenses, would not be more disturbing than a strong emotion in a nature such as his.

DoNothing69
#53   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to datalaughing, #52:

He never pursued her again and referred to her in several other stories. Clearly Conan Doyle's intentions were that, to Watson, Sherlock was this cold reasoning machine and yet we see Holmes' emotions on several occasions. Maybe the character evolved as the writing went on. For example, in Scandal in Bohemia Watson states "Holmes always referred to her as 'The Woman'" and yet in several later stories Holmes calls her "Irene Adler".
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#54   Posted 1 year ago
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Sherlock S02E02 trailer - familiar face as one of the guest stars
DoNothing69
#55   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JayCee, #54:

Tovey? He's never off the air.
JayCee
ImperalBaker
#56   Posted 1 year ago
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Sherlock, Season 2, wil air in America on your local PBS station via Masterpiece Mystery on May 6, 13 and 20. I need confirmation but it comes from a reputable source.
The_Kodu
#57   Posted 1 year ago
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I wish I'd seen the first series. I've only just joined in and wow I thought it was going to be terrible but it works so well in a modern setting.
I also love the modern implication of Sherlock using drugs with "bad days" and the people around him trying to find if he has a stash about lol
Linett
#58   Posted 1 year ago
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Loved the first series, and Scandal was terrific!

Benedict + Martin are such fantastic actors. Can't wait for them in the Hobbit!
Longshanks77
#59   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Shura0107, #51:

We laughed so much during that scene! The whole series is brilliant. The chemistry between the cast fantastic. Looking forward to their rendition of Hounds.
DoNothing69
#60   Posted 1 year ago
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Small error in this week's episode. When identifying the mother and son in the pub as a "Westie" owner, Sherlock says they have hairs up to the knee. Westie's don't shed so there's no way they'd have hair on their clothes.

Still, you can't get everything right.
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