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Is Anything Absolute? [ 1 ] [ 2 ] [ 3 ]
Stealth7500
Pickles
#1   Posted 2 years ago
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I would argue no, and that everything is based on some amount of faith, including science.
DeadAndGay
#2   Posted 2 years ago
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I dunno, I heard on NPR that the world is really the equivalent of a record and we just subconsciously add the 3rd dimension. Live the lifestyle.
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#3   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Stealth7500, #1:

Absolute zero.

Absolu Vodka.

Absolutely Fabulous.



SomethingAli
#4   Posted 2 years ago
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Who knows there is tons of things that are "absolute" but what does it even mean it self?
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#5   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to SomethingAli, #4:

From Webster's Universal English Dictionary.

Absolute adj. unrestricted, unconditional, complete; positive, perfect, pure, not relative; (inf) utter, out-and-out.
Satarus
Nevar Forget
#6   Posted 2 years ago
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Nope.

As long as we are not trying to talk about divinity, that is. Of course then people like to throw out nebulous terms like absolute good without properly defining what good actually means.
Rainwizzard
#7   Posted 2 years ago
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taxes
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#8   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Satarus, #6:

You're absolutely right.
Landon
Le Cat Gifs
#9   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Stealth7500, #1:

As Google defines absolute: perfect or complete or pure; "absolute loyalty"; "absolute silence"; "absolute truth"; "absolute alcohol".

So, yes. There are some things that are absolute, but most things are not.
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#10   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to optimumforge, #9:

Basically it can be objective or subjective depending on what it is describing.
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#11   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Bobomcgraw, #3:
In reply to Stealth7500, #1:

Absolute zero.

Absolu Vodka.

Absolutely Fabulous.

Fuck. Beat me to it.
Ugobama
#12   Posted 2 years ago
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Death is the only absolute for every single organism.
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#13   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Ugobama, #12:

And vodka.

Can't forget the vodka.


You must be a hit at all the parties.

Post edited 4/23/11 6:19PM
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#14   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Chi_Mangetsu, #13:

-What do you make of the party?
-It's going to end eventually, just like our lives.
Baruch
#15   Posted 2 years ago
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Nietzsche says no, and that's really the point of his arguments: Modern society has created a worldview that cannot stand absolutes but still clings to them. It is the sudden realization of the lack of absolutes by someone who clung to fake absolutes that causes nihilism, or the belief in nothing.

But the lack of absolutes to me does not mean a lack of God or religion: I think a living, dynamic deity does not fit the definition of absolute ideologies as Nietzsche would explain it, which is to say metaphysical constructs such as Platonic Forms.
Baruch
#16   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to SomethingAli, #4:

I would say that Absolute in this sense is more in reference to the Socratic notion of absolute ideals that Plato would evolve into the forms. Essentially an absolute is a definition of a concept in and of itself with no use of examples that stands completely on its own. It's difficult to describe without looking at an actual example, so I would offer up the Platonic dialogue "Euthyphro" to show what I mean - here Socrates is trying to find what it means to be absolutely pious.
Exodusv
Sponsor
#17   Posted 2 years ago
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The only absolute is that every action must have an equal or opposite reaction.
Stealth7500
Pickles
#18   Posted 2 years ago
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Take whatever you think is an absolute and ask yourself "Are you absolutely sure it is, always has been, and always will be?" That vodka wasn't absolute before it was bottled and it certainly won't be when I'm done with it. Personally I think Nihilism has a bad rap. Think of it more of a egoless view of existence.
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#19   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Stealth7500, #18:

Nihilists are selfish twatbags deluding themselves, especially those who it's obvious they've seen the Matrix one too many times.
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#20   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Chi_Mangetsu, #19:

I'm a nihilist.
I don't like being one.
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#21   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Bobomcgraw, #20:

Well obviously.

Have you attempted to get laid?
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#22   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Chi_Mangetsu, #21:

Are you offering?

I know you have a super sexy moustache, but it's not that sexy.
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#23   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Bobomcgraw, #22:

The hell it isn't!

.... Right, back to drinking it is then.

Post edited 4/26/11 7:16PM
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#24   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Chi_Mangetsu, #23:

Woohoo!

Let's drink until reality is just an illusion.
Baruch
#25   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Bobomcgraw, #24:

That won't take long.
Chi_Mangetsu
mulattobutts
#26   Posted 2 years ago
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Don't worry.

Hangovers are a great equalizer.

Coincidentally, it's also much harder to deny the existence of reality during one.
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#27   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Chi_Mangetsu, #26:

I can because I sleep through mine.
Kuo
#28   Posted 2 years ago
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what do you guys think of this?:

everything changes, that's a 'fact'
somethings never change, that's a 'fact'

which one is it, or can they coexist? and if coexistence is possible, how?
Bobomcgraw
Bah Humbug
#29   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Kuo, #28:

Everything changes.
Kuo
#30   Posted 2 years ago
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In reply to Bobomcgraw, #29:

but you have to agree that some things never go away
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