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Sn1tak
HalfMan
#16831   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to BenRG, #16872:

He didn't seem to have any idea what was going on with the bigger picture, he may well have thought he killed her but in fact she survived due to their inferior weaponry.

Or, he could've just been lying to Sarge. I can't remember if that was before or after he disabled lying mode though.

Post edited 6/22/12 3:33PM
emPtysp4ce
#16832   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to BenRG, #16872:

Why?what kind of motivation would a robot have to fake someone's death? I'm pretty sure saving ammo wouldn't do it, he's in the Army. Extra rounds are everywhere. They've got rounds coming out of the wazoo.
Admittedly, Lopez is more human than either him nor Sarge would like to admit, but I still don't see how it would work.
BenRG
No Goodbyes
#16833   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to emPtysp4ce, #16874:

He's smarter than the other Reds put together; he almost certainly knows that it's all a huge make-believe sandbox for the Freelancers (O'Malley would have probably told him). Given that it's make believe, the use of lethal force except if necessary becomes unnecessary and illogical. To a robot, it would be obvious.
WesternGen
#16834   Posted 11 months ago
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You can make thousands of theories on if Sister really died or Lopez really killed her. There's no way you can really know what happened.

But looking from RT's perspective (sortof), it was a way to get rid of her because they didn't need her character anymore. However due to RT's ability to make people not stay dead, if she just walks up out of nowhere one day I wouldn't be surprised at all.

You know the Insurrectionist from S9 with the shotgun and the bandoleer? The one who got shot by the MAC cannon? Well, if you look at the S10 trailer and examine it, you can see a guy who looks exactly like him in a jeep with a robot arm. There was a clip somewhere that expanded on that scene, it had York, Wash, and Carolina fighting the Sleveless dude, the girl, and the bandoleer guy in the jeep, and in that clip he says "It's payback time."

So yeah, that pretty much confirms that this guy that got shot from a MAC cannon, fell down hundreds of feet while being hit by all the collapsing debris of the building around him, SURVIVED. Apparently he lost an arm, but HE SURVIVED. Note that we have seen this cannon blast clean through metals and such things, but somehow this guy's armor was able to withstand that, I guess.

If RT can make someone survive something like this, it makes being simply shot to death by Lopez seem like nothing. If RT wants to bring her back, then she'll be back. No doubt about it.
Bensonator
SCIU
#16835   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Donut4115, #16851:

I know Grif is Lazy and glutenous, but he doesn't have that kind of voice I associate with fat people.
Hassard93
#16836   Posted 11 months ago
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An interesting question from roosterteeth's supanova panel- www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwQ5VeglctU

And another that confirms that Donut scene from revelation is definitely canon- www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHbRvzR2hA
Bensonator
SCIU
#16837   Posted 11 months ago
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Ya know, I really wonder why CT likes Pill. When he said "Fire", and "I left our guests a present." his voice made me think of this evil, nasty, insane smile. He really sounds like villain material sometimes, despite the fact that they made it very clear that Project Freelancer might be the real bad guys.
Nevada
Stand Tall
#16838   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Bensonator, #16879:

Venom for the enemy is different than love for your favorite turncoat.
bradleykins
TROLL J3GUS
#16839   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Bensonator, #16877:

Wow, this thread is fully of stereotyping today.
Sn1tak
HalfMan
#16840   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to bradleykins, #16881:

I know, I was well aware of that when I made my Tucker comment earlier. To be fair, I don't normally think of Grif as fat either, just lazy.
tehgeko
#16841   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Sn1tak, #16882:

Well to be fair, calling Grif fat could just mean that he's simply fatter than the rest of the BGC and not because he's 30+ pounds overweight like Luke originally imagined him as.

And on that note, I've got two questions about the latest episode that may or may not have been already addressed. First, why in hell was Mother of Invention not able to detect the Staff of Charon as carrying lifesigns among the scrapyard? Second, why did Mother of Invention stand down after losing track of where the insurrectionist signal went, only to be ambushed by the Staff of Charon?
Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16842   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to tehgeko, #16883:

he only answer I can think of right off the top of my head is that Staff of Charron has some kind of technology that allows them to run silent and maybe even mask lifeforms within. Like a cloaking device. As for the second half of your question about Mother of Invention standing down...I chalk that up to The Director's arrogance and thinking he'd actually won.
CorbanG
feedle
#16843   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to WesternGen, #16876:
You can make thousands of theories on if Sister really died or Lopez really killed her. There's no way you can really know what happened.

Thousands of theories is basically what this thread is all about. Almost none of them will ever be correct, but it's good to throw out some thoughts and attempt to find the answer.


Post edited 6/22/12 9:47PM
Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16844   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to CorbanG, #16885:

No kidding. I mean, how many different theories do we have on C.T. alone? Mystery Blue Guy? The Pill? Sometimes, speculating what happened is probably more fun than actually knowing. I think Sister's unknown fate falls into that category.

Post edited 6/22/12 10:00PM
Nevada
Stand Tall
#16845   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16886:
In reply to CorbanG, #16885:

No kidding. I mean, how many different theories do we have on C.T. alone? Mystery Blue Guy? The Pill? Speculating what happened is probably way more fun than actually knowing.

Fixed.
Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16846   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Nevada, #16887:

Haha. Thanks.
CorbanG
feedle
#16847   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16886:

I've heard so many theories. Many theories that are ridiculous, but that's what makes it great!
RingedEyes
#16848   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to CorbanG, #16889:

Its the mystery, the puzzle we're trying to solve from the outside, not knowing what'll be next. As much as I like trying to figure things out, guesstimate on what might happen on a show, sometimes I'll just sit back and let the curve-ball come so I can say 'Wow, didn't see that coming.' I try to look at something from several angles at least.
fansince2010
Go Jets Go
#16849   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Bensonator, #16879:

He thinks Freelancer is the bad guys, anybody would just love dishing out some sweet justice to their foes. Plus, while it is heavily hinted at that Project Freelancer isn't really REALLY good, they're still portrayed, for the most part, as the good guys. Conversely, while the Insurrectionists are placed in a sympathetic light, they are still the antagonists. Dr. Pill's devious tone of voice is probably there to reaffirm that they're the "bad guys".
CorbanG
feedle
#16850   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to fansince2010, #16891:

As Delta said, they are just two groups achieving different sets of goals.
Bensonator
SCIU
#16851   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to bradleykins, #16881:

Let's face it, everyone is guilty of doing that.
Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16852   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to fansince2010, #16891:

Its hard to realize that sometimes when we are told a story, the character we follow is not necessarily the "good" guy. This is especially when the roles of two opposing parties are never clearly distinguished. For all we know the Freelancers are the bad guys at this point in time. Maybe because we like the characters and identify with them that we believe them to be the good guys.

Remember, during the Blood Gulch Chronicles Freelancers were considered to be bad. They did bad things and committed bad acts against our heroes. This went on as late as season 6, when Wash attempted to bring down Project Freelancer, stating that someone had to be held accountable for what had happened to not only him, but his friends.

So...maybe they really are the bad guys. Maybe Carolina's squad are good people caught up in the bad acts of someone they believe they owe a debt to.
Bensonator
SCIU
#16853   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16894:

That's exactly what I was thinking.
cdnl33t
Finesse
#16854   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16894:

Whoa dude....that's deep...

Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16855   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to cdnl33t, #16896:

You wanna go get a beer, little leprechaun?
bradleykins
TROLL J3GUS
#16856   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16894:

I much prefer for there to not be a defined "good guy" and "bad guy."
Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16857   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to bradleykins, #16898:

Some of my favorite stories have no definite good or bad guys but shades of each.
fansince2010
Go Jets Go
#16858   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16894:

You're right about that, but Dr. Pill probably does believe the freelancers are bad guys, hence why the devious tone of voice when he mentions his "present".
cdnl33t
Finesse
#16859   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Hashibaarrow, #16897:

Yes please.

In reply to bradleykins, #16898:

I agree, until such a time as we have a clearer understanding of their motives.

Hashibaarrow
Cat Lady
#16860   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to fansince2010, #16900:

Its a matter of perception. Pill sees the Freelancers as bad guys and may do so for any number of reasons (I still like to believe he's a former Freelancer himself, but that's a different conversation).

That being said, he certainly has no love for them, does he? Not only that, but he turned one of them against her brothers in arms. That says something about him right there.

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