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TKdademon
#3091   Posted 10 months ago
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Bold prediction: The Preds do not sign or re-sign any other players for the next two years.
warmsox
#3092   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to Nixorbo, #3089:

Good. The Flyers were trying to fuck them over because they could afford the upfront money more.

Also, my favorite subtext to that saga was how much it blows up the owners position in the current labor negotiations, because they are crying poor and crying about how they want limits to that kind of contract and yet they are still handing them out like candy.
slackdog
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#3093   Posted 10 months ago
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TKdademon
#3094   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to warmsox, #3092:

Seriously, I don't think the owners are all saying that. I think the owners that actually ARE having financial difficulties are saying that, and the Rangers and Flyers are just walking around waving their dicks in everyone's faces.

In reply to slackdog, #3093:

You mock, but don't pretend you weren't relieved to get the same news.
warmsox
#3095   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3094:

And the Wild?
TKdademon
#3096   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to warmsox, #3095:

I'm not sure how much money they really have, given that it's a bad team but in an excellent market.

The other thing about the Wild is that they gambled. Craig Leipold knows that winning brings in money, but he had to spend money to win. So they paid up for the two biggest UFAs on the market in the hopes that their acquisitions could make the money back and eventually turn a profit. You have to spend money to make money, and Leipold & Fletcher decided this summer gave them the best odds of achieving that.
warmsox
#3097   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3096:

Which is why the owners crying poor and trying to clawback an additional 11% of HRR when they are authorizing these kinds of deals is ridiculous.
ziggy8392
#3098   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to Nixorbo, #3089:

Silver lining, at least now we have the money to keep Voracek, Giroux, Read, Schenn and Couturier (and probably Simmonds)
TKdademon
#3099   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to warmsox, #3097:

It makes it ridiculous if Craig Leipold says it, yes. But if the Predators raise a red flag over the disparity between teams' revenue, they would have a valid case. It's not fair to lump every single owner together in one group like that. They aren't all on the same level.
warmsox
#3100   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3099:

Probably, but they negotiate as a block.
TKdademon
#3101   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to warmsox, #3100:

That's what I think is going to be especially difficult about this. They're all going to battle under the same flag, but I'm certain there's some animosity within their ranks.
JohnMatt
#3102   Posted 10 months ago
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It might come down to an issue of revenue sharing.
LuckyBatard
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#3103   Posted 10 months ago
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Sooooo...the Hurricanes were the ones that took the chance with him and seem to be stacking the deck for a run.

Semin to Carolina: www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=401505

Post edited 7/26/12 3:39PM
TKdademon
#3104   Posted 10 months ago
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I love seeing these small market teams sign guys!
mooy04
#3105   Posted 10 months ago
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Wow Doan wants 30 million for 4 years. No thanks, pass.
dude_stud
#3106   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to mooy04, #3105:

When you negotiate a contract aim high so when they work you down you aren't to far from where you want to be.
TKdademon
#3107   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to mooy04, #3105:

Who said that? Aside from whatever idiot EC team allegedly offered it.

In reply to dude_stud, #3106:

I am starting to get annoyed with how often people have had to bring that up this summer.
LuckyBatard
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#3108   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3107:

TSN

www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=401580

Word on the street is said idiot EC team might be the Habs - another previous report on TSN had Doan meeting with the Habs with the Habs using the assistance of Doan's cousin Carey Price to talk shop.

Post edited 7/28/12 1:32AM
mooy04
#3109   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3107:

TSN said it.
TKdademon
#3110   Posted 10 months ago
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Well if that's the case, looks like nobody is going to fucking sign Shane Doan.
mooy04
#3111   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3110:

I am sure someone will overpay for him. So who thinks Lu or Ryan gets traded before the season starts. I am starting to think both will remain with their current clubs.
Kuhleezman
#3112   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to mooy04, #3111:

i don't think bobby ryan will stick around. I think he could do better elsewhere
ziggy8392
#3113   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to Kuhleezman, #3112:

I didn't hear much about anyone other than the Flyers showing much interest in him though, and the asking price from them was insane
Kuhleezman
#3114   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to ziggy8392, #3113:


I just think he's under the radar. If he doesn't get picked up i feel like he will at least be traded during the season. It really seemed like the Ducks weren't a fan of him last year, at least IMO
TKdademon
#3115   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to Kuhleezman, #3114:

He's been constantly linked to trade rumors the past few years and he finally came out and said "you know what, fuck it, trade me if you want to cause this is shitty" (paraphrased slightly)

I don't think him moving is such a sure thing.
mooy04
#3116   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3115:

I think the ducks were using those rumors just see what they could get for him rather then really wanting to trade him, and it kind of blew up in their faces.
TKdademon
#3117   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to mooy04, #3116:

I have to think they don't want to trade one of their only young stars as they try to rebuild. Who else can they rely on? Getzlaf is streaky (and also a dick), and they have Corey Perry (who is also a dick) and Bobby Ryan as their only star forwards (excluding the ageless Teemu Selanne because you don't count on him going forward). Cam Fowler on the back end and... That's basically it as far as I know. It's not enough to win with. Maybe the thinking is that they can get by with Perry and Getzlaf and move Ryan for the assets you need to fill out a team? Ryan alone won't shore up those holes though.
mooy04
#3118   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #3117:

Yea I have some friends who are ducks fans and they are not looking forward to next season due to their defense or lack their of. Also on a side note Cory Perry is one of the players I hate most in the league.
Rickles
#3119   Posted 10 months ago
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Is anyone in this thread even talking about the possibility that Homer sent that offer sheet as a gift to Poile? The offer didn't make any sense. Poile had already offered a similar contract to Ryan Sutter (long and disgustingly front loaded). Homer had to know he would match... but then again... it is Homer
BigNiceJohn
#3120   Posted 10 months ago
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