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JohnMatt
#1861   Posted 1 year ago
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Upon.
puckplayer
#1862   Posted 1 year ago
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So, let's present the evidence...

December 31st, Torres was suspended for two games for charging Minnesota's Nate Prosser.
Two days before that he was fined $2,500 for elbowing Colorado's Jan Hejda.

So not only is he a repeat offender, but he's already been talked to twice this year.

The hit on Hossa was charging (he left his feet), interference (late hit, well after Hossa lost the puck), targeted the head, and caused significant injury.
puckplayer
#1863   Posted 1 year ago
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Not to mention, Torres was suspended four games last year (two playoff games) for elbowing Jordan Eberle in the head.
Alsace
WWWWWWWWWWWW
#1864   Posted 1 year ago
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woooont matter
puckplayer
#1865   Posted 1 year ago
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Oh, and his first game back from that Eberle suspension? That's when he made the blindside headshot on Seabrook and didn't get suspended for it.
Caboose453
#1866   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to puckplayer, #1863:

Torres is just a dirty player on a team I happen to enjoy watching. Always hated the guy. Needs to be out for at least the next round, if they make it that far. It's akin to Cooke, for me.
puckplayer
#1867   Posted 1 year ago
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Honestly, the NHL needs to set a precedent. It seems like every game there's a play that needs to be reviewed.

If they really want to make a difference and make players realize they're serious about this, they need to throw down some massive bans. These little one and two game suspensions don't mean a thing to a third/fourth line player like Torres.
puckplayer
#1868   Posted 1 year ago
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Ok, apparently Neal's suspension wasn't announced, and Asham's one game is just his automatic one for getting a match penalty.

The suspensions will be announced tonight, apparently.
fnvicky
#1869   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to JohnMatt, #1858:

I funnyed this even though it could really happen, then it won't be funny
puckplayer
#1870   Posted 1 year ago
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Neal suspended for one game, Asham for four.
fnvicky
#1871   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to puckplayer, #1870:

i hate to be a homer, but out of all this all i can feel is so terrible for hags on how hosed he got....

shoulda got his stick up instead of his elbow, i guess.
fnvicky
#1872   Posted 1 year ago
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3 goals in 1:05

holy jesus.
puckplayer
#1873   Posted 1 year ago
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So, we should find out about Torres tomorrow.

Rumors are swirling around Chicago that Hossa has a broken jaw but I'm not hearing much else.
Marc
Backlogged
#1874   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to puckplayer, #1873:

We probably won't find out that quickly..it usually takes Shanahan at least two days to completely screw up a disciplinary decision.
puckplayer
#1875   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to pommer299, #1874:

Well, they play again Thursday, so it'll likely be tomorrow that we find out.
Marc
Backlogged
#1876   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to puckplayer, #1875:

Ahh, yeah your right it probably will come sometime tomorrow then
puckplayer
#1877   Posted 1 year ago
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So APPARENTLY the NHL's head office in Toronto called the United Center during the intermission and talked to the referees about what happened on the hit. They said they didn't see the hit, but just saw Hossa hit the ice, hence why there was no call.

So um, this might end up being pretty big. I've never heard of the NHL calling the arena during the game to talk to the referees.
Nixorbo
#1878   Posted 1 year ago
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4 games for Asham, 1 (ONE?!?) for Neal.
cml1983
#1879   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to puckplayer, #1877:
So APPARENTLY the NHL's head office in Toronto called the United Center during the intermission and talked to the referees about what happened on the hit. They said they didn't see the hit, but just saw Hossa hit the ice, hence why there was no call.

So um, this might end up being pretty big. I've never heard of the NHL calling the arena during the game to talk to the referees.
They just started it this year for just the playoff/finals
cml1983
#1880   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to puckplayer, #1836:
In reply to Alsace, #1835:

Apparently Torres just knocked Hossa out of the game. Stretcher on the ice for Hoss, Torres left his feet, targeted the head, and hit him late...and Torres doesn't get a penalty.

I'm one of the biggest hockey fans you'll meet, but this league is turning into a joke.
I want to know how the lines men at the hawks blue line missed this hit?
www.csnchicago.com/pages/video?PID=JWPwyIG5bUi6Q...

Edit
In-fact at 59 seconds on this clip he's looking almost right at the hit.

Post edited 4/18/12 12:43AM
TKdademon
#1881   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to Nixorbo, #1878:

In fairness, Neal didn't really accomplish the devastating/injurious hits he appeared to be aiming for (also he is a 40-goal scorer and guys who score goals get fewer game suspensions). Besides, a one game ban is pretty much a "rest of the season" thing anyway for the Penguins. So the count stands:
Asham-4
Adams-1
Neal-1

I don't think those are unreasonable. Well, not moreso than anything else Shanahan has done.
BigNiceJohn
#1882   Posted 1 year ago
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Backstrom was also suspended for one game for his cross check to Peverley's face.

Weird thing about the Torres hit is it actually makes me like Cooke a little more, because clearly, it actually IS hard to stop targeting guys heads with your elbow, jumping into hits, or blindsiding guys.
BigNiceJohn
#1883   Posted 1 year ago
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The linesman clearly saw the Torres hit, but I guess he didn't feel it was worth a major penalty. which is the only circumstance other than too many men or a high sticking double-minor where the linesman is even allowed to say anything to the ref.
warmsox
#1884   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #1881:

And that's exactly why it should be based on intent.
mooy04
#1885   Posted 1 year ago
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I am nervous about tonight’s game, but it should be a physical fun one. Go Kings.
slackdog
#1886   Posted 1 year ago
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They should expand replay for all potential goal scoring plays and any plays where a player is carted off the ice.
Nixorbo
#1887   Posted 1 year ago
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deadspin.com/5903036/how-to-earn-a-one+gam...
TKdademon
#1888   Posted 1 year ago
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It's hard to penalize intent in a lot of cases, because sometimes intent isn't as obvious as Weber/Neal/Torres. I don't completely hold it against the NHL for ignoring intent, but there's a place for it sometimes.

So some Philly tabloid had this today. I find it incredibly satisfying to know that Philadelphia is putting out its own hypocrisy right now.

I couldn't even imagine the shittiest of local tabloids in Pittsburgh photoshopping rival players into stuff like that. At least the journalism in my city has a little integrity, if no one else does.
TKdademon
#1889   Posted 1 year ago
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By the way, Brayden Schenn takes a run at Paul Martin, Paul Martin is unavailable for tonight's game.

Thanks to Arron Asham, Schenn is a victim and no one is going to think twice about him maybe actually being kind of dirty in this series as well.
slackdog
#1890   Posted 1 year ago
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In reply to TKdademon, #1889:

I hope the Penguins come back and win this series. I also hope the Rangers lose 3 straight games where they had a 5 goal lead. Hell, after last night's game I hope no body ever wins, anything, ever!
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