Well, when you get arrested for the next time you look up MLP fan art because you're a suspected bestiality paedophile because of this bill, I'll be sure to quote this thread for you.
If they didn't care, why would these bills be getting passed? It's the government funded law enforcement and legal system that's allowing these things to pass, and in turn, has to enforce them, isn't it?
They care about criminals and terrorists, not the average person who looks up lolcat pictures, and watches youtube videos. Hell, if some poor FBI agent is watching me, they will get bored as shit within a week. I can't imagine myself being interesting enough for the government to go through the process of watching me
They care about criminals and terrorists, not the average person who looks up lolcat pictures, and watches youtube videos. Hell, if some poor FBI agent is watching me, they will get bored as shit within a week. I can't imagine myself being interesting enough for the government to go through the process of watching me
The implimentation of this bill is obviously being argued in the case you present, but will the companies and corporations that support this bill not use it to enforce the copywrite laws? I don't think so.
It's not the FBI I'm worried about, it's the same people who are getting ISPs over seas to block FTPs, it's the companies who fine people hundreds of thousands of dollars for uploading software, or for hosting free online game servers, or shut down streaming websites.
They can put up these laws in the name of national security, but the more common use is probably going to be to make the internet a more policed medium in general, not just against the dangerous people.
well the internet won't be the wild west much longer. As for copyright, torrenting will probably take a major hit (which I'm not all that upset about), but legitimate site like youtube probably won't be affected. So, unless you are uploading pirated programs or torrent, you will be fine.
FTP websites, which are often general use for people that like to host things, are threatened. Hell, any place that lets you post anything that's potentially copywrite is at risk. Putting up an image that's not yours for an Avatar? (Photobucket, imageshack, tinypic, etc) And while YouTube might not be 'at risk' in terms of being closed, lots of videos are being taken down for having anything related to something copywrite.
Fan made music videos are being even more frequently targeted especially.
But sites can already remove videos, and pictures for copyright on their own accord. Sites will need to buff up their self policing, but the idea that "major sites will be taken off the internet" seems a little silly to me. Plus, even if major sites are removed (big if) there will always be something else to replace it. And the government and corporations don't care about your profile picture, they care about people that distribute in mass, nobody is going to shift through every website to find copy-written material. Basically, if you don't cut into a company's profit, they aren't going to press charges or notice you.
They already do, sure, but with this further free reign, they'll have a greater ability to monitor traffic and find these websites and offending pieces. That's the big problem. It's been going on in terms of advertising with Google and Facebook selling our personal information, and it's going to further occur in a legal presence.
And I never said major sites will be taken off, but they will be changed, they will have less freedom, it will be damaging to these websites and their users. I agree with the principal, but if past situations have been any example of how these kinds of things actually end up being executed, I don't agree with this plan and the digital big brother getting a free pass to rifle through random people's data like you're going through airport security every time you go online.
That's where torrenting gets us, people abused their freedom, now the government and big business feel like they need to limit it. I guess the biggest argument I have is could versus will. Just because they can doesn't mean they will. Like going 5 miles over the speed limit, can police pull you over? Yes. Do they always pull you over? No. And any action will still require legal action, for most people and sites government and corporations probably won't even bother with legal action beyond a cease and desist order.
The difference is that taking down one torrent site affects a lot more people than giving one guy a speeding ticket, or setting up one radar trap, or installing speed bumps on one road, or lowering the speed limit of a highway.
The whole concept of, "If you don't do anything wrong, why worry?", is very much a Big Brother like slogan. What's to say that they can't come out and say that you posted a copyrighted image in facebook awhile ago, so you're going to be charged with something? This is just giving the government another avenue of silencing people who don't play to the beat of their (the government's,) drum. It's a digital rendition of the NDAA to be honest. Do something wrong? No? Well, the government says yes, so you're going to be detained without trial.
You're totally right bro, you should disconnect from the internet and get off the grid as quickly as possible. Do you own a cabin? And i so can I hide out there for awhile? You should buy gold as well because the government can't track gold. Oh, and grow a beard to stay hidden
I'm not saying that they will necessarily do those types of things, but it is setting the groundwork for future actions that follow those lines. If you adopt a sense of laid back indifference about it, what sort of boundaries can we set for the government? It'd be good to get people to make a buzz about this as well to establish what the justice system should, and should not be able to do. These types of bills will enable infringement of privacy later down the road without question, that much is for certain.
Well, looking at all the support america got for SOPA but when it came round to smaller countries it was every man for himself, I couldn't give a fuck.
Tell me we're all in this together, cause we're not.
Well everyone is entitled to their own viewpoints on it then, history has shown that the more power people give, those in charge are more inclined to actually use it at some point.
yeah, I don't do terrible stuff, I might have used a torrent or two but that's cause I needed modded versions of stuff to work on Ubuntu, I just don't like the gov to know everything I do, I tend to have strong opinions and often don't agree with the governments ideas...
