It is interesting to see that opinion is pretty much split down the middle on this (I was preparing for a backlash).
I think my issue isn't to do with the lyrics, or the music (which would be perfectly for the scenes as an instrumental) but I just find it doesn't really add anything to the scenes. It detracts attention away a bit and it feels like the excellent animation is being cheapened a little.
As musical tracks, they are good. Admittedly not my taste but still good. Just feels a bit ....off.
I like the idea that there is different music for the Freelancer sections and the Machinima sections but what's going to happen when they crossover?
Also, is there someone just downrating every single post?..
I feel like it adds a certain energy and intensity. Falling Towards the Sky was great, as was the opening this season. My only issue is that the lyrics are often...too cheesy, I guess?
Take the full version of On Your Knees. Great song, pretty much Tex bragging about being a badass, then BOOM random rap out of no where with really cheesy lyrics. I felt the way towards the end of Falling Towards the Sky when the lyrics talk about being in the back of a truck.
That said, my preference is for the unhinged guitars and one-woman-wail that constitutes Carolina's theme.
I had literally written a bit where I mentioned the raps felt a bit cheesy, but wasn't sure if that was the appropriate word.
I guess it could be because the lyrics are based within a fictional world and the words don't have true feeling. Rap is only truly effective when it's from the heart and about real, personal problems... (although admittedly I am no expert)
I cant say much because I'm biased. I'm not big into rap at all. But for me, yea. It seems out of place. But most of all, I honestly wouldn't think of rap as being involved with anything Rooster Teeth. Seems like they'd like punk or metal or anything besides rap.
I don't mind it. I really like the instrumentals like songs like Agent Tex and Extraction better but I'll be ok with the rap as long as it doesn't go into "up in the club wit ma bitches an' hoes" which I think is highly unlikely
Agreed, with the whole "show matters more than the music" idea. I personally don't really notice the music, I know its there, and it's playing, but I get more focused on whats actually going on to really pay attention to it.
I have to disagree on a certain degree here, I'm a huge soundtrack lover, and I must say that I too had trouble with the rap. It's not the rap itself that annoys me, even if I'm not a big rap fan, I still bought the full soundtrack on iTunes and love to listen to it... separately.
Falling Towards the Sky worked "ok", but I still think a completely musical score would fit and work better, even with action scenes...
I didn't care about what they did with the trailer, because ultimately, that's not really an episode anyway.
I think it is tasteful and appropriate where it is placed, plus it is fricking AWESOME music on its own regardless. I would only have a problem if RvB used commercial music from MTV or whatever instead of original compositions. Jeff William's work is written FOR RvB and thus it BELONGS in RvB.
The rap doesn't seem to fit in the sequences as well as other music might fit. They managed to make it fit alright with falling towards the sky, but it seemed forced in episode 1 of ten. A more halo-ish soundtrack seems like it would fit better. However, I have faith in RT to make whatever they do awesome.
It's a mixed bag for me. I liked the rap in "On Your Knees," especially since it got less "rappy" towards the end. I didn't like "Falling Towards the Sky" as much, mainly because the lyrics just didn't seem like they were thought out enough and didn't rhyme very well towards the end.
I'm just glad that, for the most part, the more rap-like parts of the songs have been left out of RVB. The occasional rap they do have doesn't bother me as much, but I prefer Jeff's other songs, like "Red vs. Blue" and "Can't Trust Anybody Now" (seriously, that song needs to be in the series somewhere).
I implore you listen I will to more than one type of rap music and then make that claim again. What is today known as the most popular form of rap(post gangsta rap) is a sort of pop rap that is made with money in mind. The most pure forms of rap and hip-hop were songs that dealt directly with struggles in life and much of it had political and noteworthy news references laced within their bars. Listen to Lupe Fiasco's song titled Words I Never Said and pay attention to the lyrics.
Rap is my favorite genre of music and I have to defend it when someone speaks out against it without knowing all their is to it.
As someone who isn't a fan of rap, I actually find it very fitting in most setting used. As cool as it would be to hear some A7x or Slipknot or some other Rock band, I don't think It would fit as well as the current music playlist.
There are moments it fits, but I feel like they need wider genres. I am a music major in college, so I LOVE an awesome soundtrack, and I feel like there are such obvious parts where RvB could use some awesome Hollywood chords, but they disregard that
I am aware that there is more than one type of rap music and some can be poetry and some is trash so far Jeff Williams hasn't made a mistake in my book in the music he writes it's just that when i am watching super solders throw down I rather it be fast paced rock or metal like recently in episode two if i were to throw a party I would Decent rap music.
I'm starting to think that the dislike of rap in RvB stems less from the lyrical content, mesh with the series, or even how well it sets a scene, but more from the fact that people just straight up don't like the genre as a whole.
I started this topic, not as an anti-rap thread but with the opinion that it felt out of place in the series. It just felt shoe-horned in, creating an odd vibe for the scenes it was used in. Especially considering how it contrasted with the general tone of the series so far.
I'm all for new directions, but it just didn't feel like it worked.
Sorry if the odd "joskyMT" puts in his useless 2 cents of "I hate rap", but there are people making reasonable arguments why rap isn't fitting in the scenes.
I don't hate rap. I just think it doesn't fit the action on screen. instrumental pieces tend to work better (in my opinion), because the rhythm of the music can be fitted to the rhythm of the action (or other way around). Vocals can still be added.
As reference, take the scene of Season 9, Episode 10 with Tex beating up Wyoming and Maine. 3 tracks were used there (although if you downloaded the soundtrack, you'll know they cut in the tracks, and even combined 2. It works perfectly, the lyrics are relevant to what's happening and the rhythm is fitting the action on screen.
The song is called "On Your Knees", and if you have the soundtrack, you'll also know there is a rap bridge in it. While it works very well for the song itself, I'm very glad they cut "On Your Knees" before the rap part, because it wouldn't have fit any of the action. At. All.
I'm really enjoying all the music Jeff Williams has produced. The rapping by Lamar Smith has been fitting in ever place it's been. Punchy delivery over the the savage guitar riffs and jamming drum and bass! Love it. Rooftop free-fall was one of the best scenes of RvB animation to date to me, and the "Falling Toward The Sky" only served to make it a more intense and awesome scene. Lamar is awesome!
I can appreciate people not liking rap, but I think its presence in RvB has been perfect!
I agree. Not because it's rap specifically, but because, like somebody said, the vocals are as audible as the music. Action scenes and lyrical pieces don't fit very well, because there's noise coming from the scene and noise coming from the background. It doesn't balance well unless you mute the noises coming from the video. I can't stand hearing "and if you fuck with Tex" mixed with "pew pew pew pew" and "advantage Texas".