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New project, need some advice!
Emkayu
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#1   Posted 11 months ago
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Hey there guys, I work with a site (www.heavyeggs.com) and our team is really interested in making a machinima, we have:

a story,
a script for the pilot episode,
a capture card (black magic intensity shuttle)
a microphone (Blue Yeti)
paper and pens for storyboarding
multiple voice actors (our friends who have cool voices :P)
Project Management software (for organising our peeps)
further funding if it's needed.

We're planning on using the Halo Reach engine because the forge and theatre feature provides ease of use. Our problem at the moment is finding people to work with us since we've never really ventured into filming techniques. Is there a resource that teaches you about camera angles for Machinima and filming techniques specifically for Halo Machinima?

If anyone can help, that would be great, I'm available on Skype to chat as well if you're up for a serious discussion.

One more thing: we're documenting our entire process via video blog, so that machinima makers in the future have a somewhat decent guide to making a machinima on the Reach engine from concept all the way to publishing and marketing the video.

Thanks for reading RT community!
PHampster
#2   Posted 11 months ago
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The camera techniques and angles that are used when filming live action can also be used when filming for Halo machinima. Use a range of different shots like pan, close-up, long shot and others to make it more interesting to watch! :)
Emkayu
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#3   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to PHampster, #2:

Lol, I figured as much but can't really get any resources on those other than going to film school :( anywhere I can go to learn about different shots in filming?
Aidref
#4   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Emkayu, #3:

The Internet.


There's bound to be a couple hundred websites devoted just to camera angles and the like.
ErickK
#5   Posted 11 months ago
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Jon CJG talks about making machinima.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu3qxeZmBrk
Emkayu
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#6   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to ErickK, #5:

Watched that series and learnt al ot, still haven't a clue about where to use what angles and which shots
ErickK
#7   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Emkayu, #6:

That's totally up to you. People can't tell you what abgmgles to use. Whatever angle you think is best, you use.

MichaelLitt2
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#8   Posted 11 months ago
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Try looking up the book Cinematic Storytelling: The 100 Most Powerful Film Conventions Every Filmmaker Must Know (what i read)
or something simliar as a reference for film language.
kylebrodeur
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#9   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to MichaelLitt2, #8:

That is a very good book.

Check out the book called Master Shots. There are two of them. You can pick them up on Amazon for around $10.
They have the bare minimum you need to know about adding value to your production.
Emkayu
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#10   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to MichaelLitt2, #8:
Try looking up the book Cinematic Storytelling: The 100 Most Powerful Film Conventions Every Filmmaker Must Know (what i read)
or something simliar as a reference for film language.


In reply to KILLA9901, #9:
In reply to MichaelLitt2, #8:

That is a very good book.

Check out the book called Master Shots. There are two of them. You can pick them up on Amazon for around $10.
They have the bare minimum you need to know about adding value to your production.

I'll definitely check all 3 of those out, is there anything missing from our kit? We'll be releasing our first "blog" video this week too hopefully.
Emkayu
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#11   Posted 11 months ago
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For anyone who's interested, here's a link to the video we made from our first step!

Here

Post edited 6/20/12 9:29AM
kylebrodeur
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#12   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to Emkayu, #11:

Nice video!
Emkayu
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#13   Posted 11 months ago
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In reply to KILLA9901, #12:

Thanks! We're hoping to document our entire process so that young Machinima makers after us can get creating a lot faster and avoid our mistakes :)
kylebrodeur
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#14   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to Emkayu, #13:

I like that a lot. I really like the way Peter Jackson has been doing the blog videos for the Hobbit production. They are educational, well organized, and most importantly excite you for the film. I would love to do videos like that on future productions. The next film we do we are going to enlist a few people to be there shooting while we do stuff. I really like the behind the scenes because people can see how you work, but I think the better thing is you get to see how you work. I think it would be a great tool for documenting your workflows and thoughts for use later either in production or in reflectance of yourself to become better.

I'm glad you've chosen to do this. Keep making more!
Emkayu
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#15   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to KILLA9901, #14:

We'll definitely be keeping it up, we're starting to put together the second episode. A subscribe/like/advice on the video would be good!
kylebrodeur
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#16   Posted 10 months ago
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I'll be looking out for the next one. I have a few things that could make this a little better...

You are focusing on the content which is awesome, now make it a bit more interesting to watch. I myself liked it for the information, but I wasn't really watching. I was only listening to what you guys were saying. If this is what you would like to keep it as, maybe change over to a audio podcast format. If not, do a little bit more with the visuals. (I understand it's a first episode/pilot and you still are figuring things out.)

Simply changing up shots if you can will help out a lot. The two shot is good maybe have a medium with one of you placed on one of the outside thirds. This will open up room for you to superimpose information on screen; visuals that might help you audience understand a concept. Would also be cool to see a little bit of what you are talking about on screen. If you use a white board to visualize your story show it (of course you can blur it out, or stand far enough away from it so it can't be read if you are worried about spoilers).

I think with a little bit of tweaking you could have two shows coming out of your machinima production. These series could be helpful for those who watch it, but it could also be helpful for you. The show will allow you to think about your production processes and help you develop your skills in editing and shooting for an educational web show.
DEATHROW
#17   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to Emkayu, #3:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Five-Cs-Cinematography-Techniques/dp/187950541X
rugbyrox09
#18   Posted 10 months ago
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www.hollywoodcamerawork.us/

I got this, and it's pretty fucking amazing for learning camera techniques and tricks, as well as blocking and staging. A lot of the techniques are easier to do in machinima than in live action simply because you have far more freedom of movement with the camera systems in Halo Reach than you do on set.
Emkayu
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#19   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to KILLA9901, #16:

Thanks!
We tried filming ourselves during the process so there's different clips in there now to make it less boring. Let me know what you think.

The second episode is out:

here

Post edited 7/09/12 7:40AM
kylebrodeur
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#20   Posted 10 months ago
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I added some comments in your thread about episode two. Short version - Good work!
Emkayu
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#21   Posted 10 months ago
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In reply to KILLA9901, #20:

I replied short version- Thanks!