SPOILERS So I know by now most people has played extended ending and I would like to know your thoughts. Did you like what they added? Did you hate it? Also which ending did you choose? If you need help remembering follow the link down below where you can watch the extended cut ending. ca.ign.com/wikis/mass-effect-3/Extended_Cut_Endings
it was the same ending but went into more detail. much better than before, but not quite worth the wait. i also went back and refused to choose and accidentally let all life be harvested by the reapers lol
Nope, Bioware doing this disproves the indoctrination theory. It just turned out to be just fans trying to garb loose straws to give themselves a better ending.
Yeah, Indoctrination Theory just got busted. I chose Synthesis. I was really pleased with the ending, but I also like the previous one. Plus, the cutscenes they added were great :)
What part of it exactly disproves the theory? They filled in a few holes and addressed a small number of complaints, but there's still a ton of stuff that makes no sense if it's taken at face value.
In reply to MightyEfase, #11: Except that my Shepard still lived when I chose the Destroy ending. After they stuck the nameplate up on the Normandy's memorial wall thing, it still played the scene where she takes a breath while lying in rubble. And the Starchild still said that choosing Destroy will kill her because she's part synthetic.
If Shepard doesn't take that breath (no matter which ending), she could have simply died from her wounds in that same rubble after everything played out in her head. In the three main endings Shepard is led to believe that she is not going to survive (as she is) so I believe it's possible that she could have visions of her friends putting her name on the memorial.
And where did they specifically say it wasn't in her head? I played through all 4 endings today (including having to listen to Anderson, the Illusive Man, and the Starchild each time) and never heard anything like that.
The new scenes are just the reapers trying harder to make you believe what you're seeing is real.
The scenes added after the Normandy crash still look like more visions of hope in Shepard's head to me. Even the new 4th ending still fits as it's another option to reject the indoctrination attempt. Shepard rejects indoctrination, but the reapers still kill everyone.
I don't think there's anything added that disproves the theory and Bioware's going to continue to leave it up to the players. The OP asked what we choose, and this is what I choose to believe. A huge part of the game is our personal choices after all.
The fourth ending itself disproves the Indoctrination theory. Yet it kinda proves it at the same time? It's kinda weird.
Taken from IGN: The Rejection ending, that lets the Reapers essentially win, seems to be aimed at disproving this theory. However, Harbinger's voice can be heard during this Ending. This may indicate that he was the Star Child all along.
Yeah it's true but the indoctrination theory would work but control synthesis are probably the best out of the two endings, The control the reapers help re-build the mass relays. The Indoctrination theory said this was one of the bad, it said the same about synthesis which units organics and synthetics and we see that they co-exist. So it is impossible for there to be any indoctrination theory!!
My problem with the original ending wasn't the content (or lack there of), it was the poor execution. Mass Effect 3 was a great game but there a lot of little things that were left unpolished in the final game. I was left with the feeling that the developers were being rushed and got sloppy near the end of development trying to get the final game out in time for release. There was definitely a lack of polish compared to Mass Effect 2. To me the game that was released in Mass Effect 3 was clearly an unfinished product in the same way KOTR II was unfinished. The core game was there but huge holes started to show near the end of the game. I have a feeling none of these problems would have happened had the release date been pushed back 6 months. But in the end the publishers won out.
That being said, this is great additional content, it still feels a tad rushed (still frames rather than in-game cinematics during the closing noiceover narration just seem out of place to me) but I think this really provides a much more fleshed out and solid conclusion to the Mass Effect mythos. I'd love to see them release another update that subtly fixes some of the smaller blemishes like the quest management system but really at this point any suggestion is just nitpicking.
Also, that post-credit button scene about "the Shepard" seems to fit a lot better in the "refusal" ending, but it still seems out of place for the 3 original "colour" endings.
1st Attempt - Turned off Xbox at the Kanye West Normandy scene 2nd Attempt - Refusal 3rd Attempt - Refusal (didn't realize they patched in the ability to shoot the kid) 4th Attempt - Watched endings on youtube
I found the endings to be exactly what I expected: crappy. I didn't play them. Watched them on YT and I'm glad I did that. They changed nothing important. I was talking about this with a friend and came to the conclusion that they managed to make some of the endings slightly better. It feels like instead of being shot 6 times, you're only shot 5 times. Does it matter? Not much.
ALL endings are still broken. They wrote a bad ending and tried to cover it with the extended cut. Not to be rude, but people who find the endings to be good, must not know much about writing and presentation.
i almost cried at the part where they are going to put your name on the wall. but i noticed when you pick destroy and you survive, they don't put it on the wall... over all it was pure amazing.
Oh, you're right. I re-watched my recording from yesterday. Liara stroked the nameplate but didn't put it up on the wall. I had already seen them do it before, so when I got to that ending I must have not been paying full attention (probably reading chat because I was broadcasting on twitch). I must have just assumed it was the same scene I had already seen only with EDI missing.
But it's still a really weird scene to have if they know Shepard is alive. They all look sad and mournful and Liara walks up to the wall holding the nameplate like she's about to put it up. The only thing I can think of is that they do think Shepard is dead and then someone interrupts them and tells them Shepard is alive.
I adhered to the Indoctrination Theory as well. Originally it expalined that the other endings were just the Reapers making Shepard believe what he did was right. These new Extended Scenes don't change that. The Reapers can project whatever they wanted into his head while they came in and re-arranged the furniture.
It's impossible though. Because in the indoctrination theory the only good ending is the destroy option. With this extended cut the other two seem like good option and don't destroy the world! Even after the control it is Shepard talking, he is saying that he is part of the reapers!
People who believe in the indoctrination theory give way too much credit to Bioware's writers. It's a theory (that has been proven wrong) that some people came up with when they were trying to find some sense in the endings
What I mean't was, in synthesis you gain the reapers knowledge and organics and synthetics co -exist. Control the Reapers help re-build the mass relays. But in destroy you just kill the reapers and kill the Geth, EDI, all those. That's what I meant should of been clearer.
I thought the refusal was a neat addition. Though i don't see how it could ever be canon.
I thought the rest just added what people already assumed. Joker was running because they had no idea what the cruible was going to do. The mass relays didn't BLOW up as much as become decommissioned. The alien fleets can still get home thanks to FASTER than light drives.
Hated the fact that they threw in a slide show of races rebuilding. Don't know what happens if you didn't cure genophage, but of course everyone is rebuilding, use your imagination.
Favorite part was that they added in the Reapers helping rebuild in control and synthesis. Shows that they really were trying to protect life in the galaxy from synthetics, just not in an approving way from the life they were helping "ascend"
The biggest problem with the ending from story wise, is the stupid Retard Kid. Introducing a completely new character 10-20 minutes before the story ends is a big NO. It's story writing 101. Even worse the character wasn't small. It completely changed the story.
