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  • AAGGRESSS

    AAGGRESSS

    #33722539 - 10 months ago

    In reply to JROY


    Ya I would not do that. As a writer myself i keep a tight fist around my characters and story elements and am very careful about who else i let use my characters. So saying anything is cannon is tricky.

  • user-572df514355fe

    user-572df514355fe

    #33722560 - 10 months ago

    I just finished watching the seven deadly sins anime as well as signs of holy war a while back and it just struck me how the way Drayfus was killed has some similarities to what happened with pyrrha.

  • revanninja

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    #33722563 - 10 months ago

    In reply to user-572df514355fe

    Just to make sure Hendrick used Acid on him to "Kill" him right?


    I read the manga from time to time

  • user-572df514355fe

    user-572df514355fe

    #33722568 - 10 months ago

    In reply to revanninja That was what he called his sacred treasures ability last time i checked, so yes.

  • revanninja

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    #33722569 - 10 months ago

    In reply to user-572df514355fe

    Its not his scared treasure its his power.

    Much like how Ban doesnt have his scared treasure but can use Snatch.

    Hendrick developed it because as a child he was tasked with watching over corpses as they rot to prevent undead so he wanted a way to do that without taking time but also be merciful.

    Needless to say it didnt go over well.


    As far as I am aware in the Manga Hendrick doesnt have a scared treasure at all.


    And yeah I am not sure about where the Anime is but if it wasnt clear Drayfus isnt dead FAR from it.

  • user-572df514355fe

    user-572df514355fe

    #33722576 - 10 months ago

    In reply to revanninja Oh i kinda forgot about that whole difference with sacred treasures and powers honestly, well Elizabeth witnessed it happen before her very eyes and meliodas saw as well so they believe he's dead, killed by his on protege. The anime is already on it's second season but i just finished watching the dubbed first season and SOHW too so i'm waiting for season 2 to get dubbed

  • revanninja

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    #33722578 - 10 months ago

    In reply to user-572df514355fe

    They arent proteges with each other. They were high holy knights with Hendrick as the Commander of them. Later on events in the manga show that they have always been more or less in lock step with each other.


    And yeah BUCKLE UP because you are in for some good times.

  • user-572df514355fe

    user-572df514355fe

    #33722585 - 10 months ago

    In reply to revanninja Still like i said there is some resemblance between drayfus "dying" in season 1 with what happened to pyrrha in volume 3 isn't there?

  • revanninja

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    #33722626 - 10 months ago

    In reply to user-572df514355fe

    Defiently more then a little

  • Bumblebee4life

    Bumblebee4life

    #33722646 - 10 months ago

    In reply to JROY

    In reply to revanninja

    Maybe it's like Star Wars Tales where some of it is canon but some of it isn't 

  • revanninja

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    #33722648 - 10 months ago

    In reply to Bumblebee4life

    That might be what is going on but its hard to say just right now.


    Generally people hold Anthologies as dubious canon meaning so long as they dont counter what the show or the creators say its okay to hold them as a Head canon.

    But they can EASILY be overturned by the creators and ANY conflict with the source material renders them non-canon.


    That is why Anthologies are seen as fun things but generally not canon by most people who read them.

    They are too tenuous in nature.


    Now the fact Kerry says they are suppose to be canon does add weight to them but the suppose to be has me thinking that isnt true or at least as you point out not all of them are.

    But until we get to the end or things that run counter to them its hard to say yes or no.

  • JROY

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    #33722651 - 10 months ago

    In reply to Bumblebee4life

    Thats how I feel, the non Canon ones are pretty obvious. I'd actually love to see an anthology done by many of the popular fan artists, especially the funnier ones.

  • revanninja

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    #33722655 - 10 months ago

    In reply to JROY

    And I am sorry if I come across as being pushy I have just had in the past a LONG discussion about Anthologies were the very issue of canon or not has come up.

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33722678 - 10 months ago

    Hello again!  pyrrha


    In reply to revanninja

    In reply to AAGGRESSS

    Sorry I jump in this late to the party, but humor me, OK? To me, the show is more or less hanging by a thread. They can work over the things people have complained a lot, and improve them. Or, they can take out the shovels and dig. Pyrrha coming back is indeed a step in the good direction, in my opinion. But it also depends a lot on how she comes back. There is room for them to screw up that, and also to nail it. Kind of hard, isn't it?


    I do agree with Revan. The writers have messed up things, that's for sure. But I do not think they're doing it to piss fans off. Those have been honest mistakes, and they are honestly trying to do their best. So, to me, it is still worth it, and I would still recommend the show.

  • revanninja

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    #33722682 - 10 months ago

    In reply to FettucCR

    I dont think its by a thread to be honest.

    I do think its skating on thin ice because if they repeat vol 5 they are going to lose it. So Vol 6 is their make it or break it point.


    As for Revival its actually not as hard as you think it is. They just need to stay balanced by it. And what I mean by that is they cant rewrite every death ones like Pyrrha that are so clearly special sure that makes sense but ones like Huntsmen in vol 4? Not so much


    Bravely Default and its sequal Second actually use probably around a dozen revival tropes and they pull them off well.

    Deus Ex Machina. Literally the player is reviving and animating Tiz keeping him alive. This comes into play in the second were they use a soul like us to revive Tiz then later using time travel the collected hopes and dreams of the travels to revive Tiz for good.

    Time Travel as mentioned before. In Default you kill the enemies that is made clear but they are alive and well for the most part in second how did they survive? Simple while saving Tiz the adventurer also saved them as well.

    There is also time travel to reset and gain a second chance.

    Multiple dimensions with parallel worlds letting familiar events and people play out again.

    Then there is Kikyo playing dead for a trap

    Qada faking dead to escape

    Barbossa as a ghost

    Vega and Altiar as souls still in this world.


    There is probably more that I am forgetting to be honest Bravely LOVES messing with tropes and the fourth wall and it pulls it off well.


    So its not as hard as people think it is.


  • The-Batman-Who-Laughs

    The-Batman-Who-Laughs

    #33722839 - 10 months ago

    In reply to EmeraldKiwi94

    Found this. Thought it was cool.


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    Is this True? Tell me it's True!!!!!! I want this to be True!!!

  • DekZek

    DekZek

    #33722840 - 10 months ago

    In reply to The-Batman-Who-Laughs


    I believe that’s an edited picture from Volume 4

  • revanninja

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    #33722842 - 10 months ago

    In reply to DekZek

    In reply to The-Batman-Who-Laughs

    Dek is correct that is an edit just a really well done one is all because if that had been true we would have freaked out a LOT.

  • The-Batman-Who-Laughs

    The-Batman-Who-Laughs

    #33722843 - 10 months ago

    In reply to DekZek

    Oh. Sorry about that. Thought RT had finally saw sense there.☹️

    Though I'm more a Dark Penny then Grimm Pyrrah. Still.☹️

  • revanninja

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    #33722845 - 10 months ago

    So that is interesting

    https://twitter.com/rwbyma_homesha/status/996567931512283136?s=21


    So the RWBY anthologies are non-canon with this one exception that Scarlet is Gay.

    I havent found where its confirmed they are non-canon but I am seeing it pop a LOT reccently especially in regards to this.

  • JROY

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    #33722850 - 10 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    Ok next Q&A I'm asking if the Anthologies are Canon or not.

  • revanninja

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    #33722851 - 10 months ago

    In reply to JROY

    Good luck I am only reporting what I am seeing which is a lot of people who I dont know saying its been confirmed to be non-canon which I cant find if its confirmed that or not.

    JUST like I cant find that its confirmed to be canon either I couldnt find the reddit post.


    Its normal for Anthologies to be non-canon for the most part in other works I have seen.


    Now its possible its not the stories that are canon but little nuggets like Scarlet being Gay which are which might be what Kerry was meaning in that Reddit post you refered to but didnt want to spoil what is and what isnt.


    All I can tell you is that the official line is Scarlet being Gay was brought forth by Kerry and is canon which indicates by the wording other things brought forth are not canon since they didnt say its all canon or like wording.

  • JROY

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    #33722860 - 10 months ago

    Ok this is cool apparently some more prominent creators are starting to approach RT for pitches. The creator of Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Rob McElhenney, is going to release a horror/comedy animated series. 


    Also its possible Roosterteeth is starting to slowly withdraw from Youtube. I can understand if its given how much youtube is finding itself at odds with content creators.  

  • revanninja

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    #33722924 - 10 months ago

    In reply to emilyblack

    That isnt true.

    They do listen to us the issue is some of it cant be fixed straight away such as reuniting team RWBY they needed to get them back together in a way that didnt feel clunky.


    What a lot of people fail to realize is what they can do and what people WANT them to do are not the same thing.


    And its not by a thread either. By a thread is were they need to WOW the audience in order to get things back in just to survive. That is what hanging by a thread REALLY means.

    As an example the studio that recently closed down that had an overwatch clone that didnt get traction then tried to do a PUBG knock off game that also didnt get traction that one was hanging by a thread when they made the PUBG knock off because it failling literally closed their studio.


    If Vol 6 doesnt wow they will lose a lot of people to be sure but it wont kill RWBY. Which if it was hanging by a thread that is 100% be what would happen.

  • revanninja

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    #33722927 - 10 months ago

    In reply to emilyblack

    I do agree 5 had a lot of build up and while Cinder vs Raven was awesome it clearly pulled from other stuff and hurt the overall product.

    Which is something the AMA made super clear they are aware of.

    And considering they said they would be working on the final episode up to release when vol 5 started I am wondering if they just plain screwed up and were fully intending for a long fight and they just shot themselves in the foot with it.


    The thing a lot of people dont recognize is Monty passing has had a profound effect on RWBY in more ways then we probably realize and replacing that isnt easy.I think vol 5 was them trying to do a monty level thing and just unable to do it. Monty was a level of genius you dont often see and I think we just dont realize how much he effected RWBY.