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  • Gicaldo

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    #33734157 - 5 months ago

    Wait really? Okay, that's stupid. I didn't know about that. Then Thanos' plan really stops making sense all of a sudden.

  • tin-foilhat

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    #33734164 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Dinobot01


    If you’re a fan of Voltron fine, but PLEASE let’s not open that can of worms I just came from. People are attacking the voice actors, and the creators fail to realize what it was they did wrong and why people are so furious. Things have gotten so ugly that it REALLY makes you appreciate your fandom isn’t THAT fandom.



    Remember the fuss people were making about Ilia being evil and queer? Haha, that was a mild discourse COMPARED to the WARZONE THAT’S ON TUMBLR. Stay away every one! STAY AWAY! The fandom was so wrong about Ilia being negative representation. Even though it was clear from the beginning she was intended to me a misunderstood and conflicted but sympathetic character and her feelings for Blake were portrayed as one of her most REDEEMABLE and positive qualities? RWBY has better LGBTQA rep by FAR after Voltron’s last season. I’m not saying anything more than I want to take everything back I ever said about queer baiting after a hat I saw. Even if B.B. don’t get together I’m still willing to say they are more thoughtful and considerate of their LGBTQA audiences and 99.5 percent of the rest of the animation field.


    Next paycheck I’m buying a rainbow RT shirt.

  • Gicaldo

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    #33734165 - 5 months ago

    I actually liked Ilia's portrayal. As a friend of mine put it, she's not controlled by her sexuality; it's just a tiny part of who she is. Besides, if you only put LGBT+ characters in certain roles, isn't that discrimination to a certain degree, too?


    Plus, Ilia is redeemed by the end of Volume 5 anyway, so I really don't get the complaints.

  • tin-foilhat

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    #33734167 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Gicaldo


    I was cynical at first. My thought was “Really? The first recurring queer character is morally conflicted?” But in hindsight and reflection, I can say the handling of Ilia’s character could’ve been so much worse and what CRWBY was trying to come across as saying. It might’ve been somewhat flawed but they really did pull off a compelling queer character with more grace than the FNDM’s initial knee-jerk reaction gave them credit for.

  • EmeraldKiwi94

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    #33734171 - 5 months ago

    In reply to tin-foilhat


    Um. I'm opening that can of worms? Because I like Voltron and I had no idea anything is happening. I haven't seen the newest season yet but I don't care about spoilers.  Are you saying the crew did something awful (my thoughts jumped to them killing an LGBTQ+ character) and people are understandably angry or are the fans unreasonably angry about something (like their ship not being canon)? Or both? I think I saw a tweet from a crewmember asking people not to send death threats to the crew but I thought they were old.

  • revanninja

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    #33734186 - 5 months ago

    In reply to EmeraldKiwi94

    Shiro is confirmed Gay

    His lover Adam is killed before they return to earth.

    They have shot down Klance. Lance and Allura seems to be on a slow but growing in speed track while Keith and Axca seem to be a thing in fact its even said by Lotor's former female generals she was ALWAYS sweet on him. They brought back Shay and she sees Hunk and its clear its picking up right after they left off. Pidge was confirmed to be using an assumed name and Id confirming she was never trans like some thought.


    Basically a LOT of Fanon has just gotten disproved.

  • Gicaldo

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    #33734189 - 5 months ago

    Oh dear, and if there's one thing that pisses fans off no end is disproving their fan theories.

  • EmeraldKiwi94

    EmeraldKiwi94

    #33734211 - 5 months ago

    In reply to revanninja


    Oh. Yikes. Also, called it on the LGBTQ+ character death.  weary

  • RavenBranwen325

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    #33734212 - 5 months ago

    You're theories have to be plausible depending on the events that occur, my friends. They must relevant. Otherwise, in other words they are completely nonchalant.  

  • WrightKnight

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    #33734213 - 5 months ago


    In reply to Gicaldo

    Yes, that was a big part of my contribution to the Queerbaiting topic: that only putting LBGT character in specific roles, even if they're positive, not only sets a new stereotype for them, it ALSO inherently sets a new NEGATIVE stereotype for others.  What's the other message sent if you're saying that LBGT people can only be portrayed as good?  That the only evil people are straight.  Sometimes I wonder if certain portions of various aggrieved minority communities know that they are making these inherent arguments, geared towards painting their former tormentors (straight white men) as evil, and don't care.  Because that's what social society is doing with it's ultra-PC culture now: an emphasis on NOT portraying people of color, LGBT, women, etc, etc, as good and right, and that's a massive improvement.  But when you pair it up with massive social attacks and knee-jerk reactions against anyone who DOESN'T portray them as such, the inherent second, more negative part of that message is sent.  It DOES raise the question of what the goal is: justice....or vengeance?

    In reply to tin-foilhat
    I'm actually OK with how the writers of Voltron handled all this.  After all, did I not objectively consider all of those possibilities, up to and including Pidge NOT being transgender?  After all, she had a valid and practical reason for crossdressing.  It's clear that the problem is entirely on the fans' end, NOT the writers'.  I'd say that they handled Shiro and the others BETTER than RT did Ilia, AND that you are going to see an even BIGGER backlash if Blake/Yang does not become a thing, due to how members of Rooster Teeth, NAMELY BARBARA, have actively contributed to the hyping up of that pairing in the fans' minds by saying the things they do (like publicly saying that she hopes that Yang is gay, for example), and that's on top of the fans basically not accepting any other type of representation, due to the aforementioned attempt at positive stereotyping.

  • WrightKnight

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    #33734214 - 5 months ago

    In reply to RavenBranwen008

    .....I'm sorry, that is a LOT of word salad for what is an incoherent thought.

  • WrightKnight

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    #33734217 - 5 months ago

    In reply to EmeraldKiwi94

    Adam is a soldier, too.  There was ALWAYS the possibility that he'd die off-screen.  Actually, that's another stereotype that the LBGT community does want to see reduced, but may not care if it sends the other message that only straight people should be killed

  • Gicaldo

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    #33734219 - 5 months ago

    In reply to WrightKnight

    Actually, I think the reason why only putting minorities in certain, heroic roles, always careful not to portray them in a negative light in any way whatsoever, is still discrimination against that very minority. "Discrimination" is not treating everyone equally. And if you deny minorities certain roles that non-offensive straight white guys can have no problem, you're still implying that those minorities are different in some way and should be treated with more care.


    And... yeah, I'm a straight white male, so I can't speak for minorities, but I do think that they really just want to be treated like everyone else. That means putting them in both heroic and villainous roles, too. Since chances are most movies and shows are made overwhelmingly by majorities (I mean, that's why they're called "majorities"), I don't think they ever intend to discriminate against themselves. They're just so careful in treating minorities in a politically correct way to avoid criticism, that they end up discriminating again.


    But, looking at the backlash for Ilia's character, I'm starting to understand them. You really can't have a minority be a flawed character like everyone else without causing a massive outrage.

  • revanninja

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    #33734222 - 5 months ago

    In reply to EmeraldKiwi94

    Considering the situation it's honestly not that surprising. It's actually realistic he isn't presented as special to the public only to shiro who clearly thinks on him.


    It's presented as being realistic and not simple.

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  • WrightKnight

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    #33734224 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Gicaldo

    And that's the FANS' fault, not the writers, and is really a symptom of the disease that is the knee-jerk reactionary social society that we line in now. 

    And to be honest, we are both right: it IS still discriminatory against the aggrieved minorities through special treatment when it ideally SHOULD be equal treatment....and it IS a case of sending an inherent discriminatory message towards the majorities, whether that inherent message is known or not.

    The real question still remains: "two birds, one stone"?

  • EmeraldKiwi94

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    #33734227 - 5 months ago

    In reply to WrightKnight

    In reply to revanninja


    Ah, that makes more sense. I thought Adam was a civilian. I'm really out of the loop for anything in the new season, haha. I haven't watched any trailers or anything. I only knew about Shiro having a boyfriend.

  • Ace-of-Rogues

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    #33734229 - 5 months ago

    Can we actually start talking about Volume 6 again? You know, the subject this thread is about? Anyone else think we're gonna get to see Tai do some fighting in Vol 6? The last thing we saw in Vol 5 was Tai with a black feather floating across the screen, which suggests they've got something in mind for him in the near future. Additionally, if Emerald is out for some revenge for what happened to Cinder, Tai makes a pretty good target.

  • EmeraldKiwi94

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    #33734230 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Ace-of-Rogues


    Seeing as how RT might face similar backlash to the Voltron crew if they do/don't do certain things, I'd say it's relevant to this thread but sure, we can move on.


    Honestly, if Tai died I wouldn't feel anything. He's only shown up a couple times and doesn't really have much of a presence in the show. I don't feel a connection with him yet. Qrow's death on the other hand, would hurt a lot. That being said, I hope we get to see Tai's first chat with Raven. That'll be fun. He looked really thrilled to see she was back. (note the sarcasm) And we might get a Team STRQ flashback out of it. That would be cool.

  • Ace-of-Rogues

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    #33734231 - 5 months ago

    In reply to EmeraldKiwi94 Die? What, from Emerald? That seems unlikely. Remember, Tai impressed Raven enough that they had a kid together, and the only thing Raven respects is strength.

  • EmeraldKiwi94

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    #33734233 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Ace-of-Rogues


    Oh, I thought you were implying he'd die. My mistake.

  • WrightKnight

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    #33734234 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Ace-of-Rogues

    In reply to EmeraldKiwi94

    I highly doubt that Emerald knows about Taiyang.  Now, what  I CAN see happening is that Emerald tries to go after Yang, and would be successful, only for Yang to be saved by a Raven taking a fatal hit.  Of course, her Aura would have to be removed as a factor....but it's not like they haven't done THAT before for the sake of the plot....

  • Ace-of-Rogues

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    #33734235 - 5 months ago

    In reply to WrightKnight We're gonna need to see some serious character development on Raven's part before I could believe she'd give her life for someone. She's made it pretty clear so far that she's not interested in this fight or what happens to those involved in it, beyond the effect it will have on her tribe.

  • HunterBlaine

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    #33734236 - 5 months ago

    In reply to Ace-of-Rogues

    The fact that Raven would abandon her daughter and Tai for people so stereotypical levels of scummy tells me all I need to know about her at least from my point of view

  • revanninja

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    #33734239 - 5 months ago


    I don't think they are. They might make us think she will like they did with yang but I don't think they are going to set up raven sacrificing herself.

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  • WrightKnight

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    #33734240 - 5 months ago

    In reply to revanninja

    It'd be a VERY weak plot at best, since the only thing that even points to Raven caring about anyone other than herself and maybe her little shit-hole on Remnant are her portals, which were basically their way of saying "but she CARES" without having to actually SHOW that she cares.  What I'm also saying that for how weak that payoff will be, they've already telegraphed it.  We have Emerald (correctly) losing her shit over Cinder not coming back (even if we know that she will, no Maiden power transfer shown), and Yang the only one coming back up.  She's devoted enough to Cinder to want to go after those that supposedly killed her, which effectively means Yang, since Yang is the only one she saw come back up from the Vault.  Meanwhile, we also have Raven in this weak little conundrum over how she's lived her life thanks to Yang "calling her out" on her shit, and she's retreated back to Taiyang.  They've basically laid down the path with big bright neon signs.