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Constructive criticism on RWBY in general

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  • Kira_Tsukasa

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    #33754227 - 3 months ago

    In reply to BakedBrain

    You can see it in the mechs, with the Vanguard's Mechwarrior-esque machines vs the Union's much more advanced spider mechs. You can see it in the foot soldiers, with the Union having much more advanced combat gear for their troops. But the biggest evidence is when they're seeing Chase's body for the first time. Someone (I forget who) asks "Couldn't you just regenerate his body?" where David Tennant's character responds "No, that's Union tech. Despicable stuff." Really? Technology that can regenerate lost limbs is despicable? That's literally the basis of the argument, a technological advancement that can reverse the outcome of "God's Plan".

  • BakedBrain

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    #33754388 - 3 months ago

    Gray Haddock, head of Rooster Teeth animation should provide some of his employees with insight on how to build up a high world danger level in fiction.

  • CarryOn88

    CarryOn88

    #33754624 - 2 months ago

    Another good video on RWBY problems 


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...


    and the one about RWBY Manga (go read it)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...





  • HokutoYangSoup

    HokutoYangSoup

    #33754637 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88

    Another good video on RWBY problems 


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...



    and the one about RWBY Manga (go read it)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...









    good choice man. I read four chapters in rent the official manga. And damn it has potential, so long as the writers, the VA, or any other people of RT makes no involvement. And I doubt they will take things seriously in a long run.

    I hope they continue jumping the shark in the next volume while the manga picks up and fixes as many issues as possible.

  • Kira_Tsukasa

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    #33754645 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88

    I'll be honest, I didn't watch that first video. The voice annoyed me to no end in the first ten seconds.


    As for the second one, it's really not fair. The manga has started recently, meaning they have years of hindsight to work with. They don't have a week's deadline to get chapters out, manga chapters are typically released in a period of around 2-3 months apart, so they have a lot more time to work with. And to top things off, they aren't making the entire thing from scratch, they already have character designs and a fairly detailed story roadmap, it's not animated so they don't have to go through that process, it's not voiced so they don't have to worry about taking the time to cast characters and getting the line delivery correct, and they aren't working with a set time for delivery so they don't have to cut less vital story elements to fit what they need into that time frame. And this is being compared to Volume 1, which did everything I just listed with a crew of less than 10 people doing 3-4 jobs each.

  • CarryOn88

    CarryOn88

    #33754651 - 2 months ago

    In reply to Kira_Tsukasa


    pity the guy have some good points and points out massive flaws in narrative.


    What you listed is true but that is also not an excuse. When you start writting story you should have a plan that you will follow and doing last minute changes like in RWBY will only lower the quality of the show, create plotholes and force the writers to do some ad hoc actions to save the narrative

  • BakedBrain

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    #33754670 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88


    What do you mean by last minute changes?

    If you are running 5 years behind, you have the benefit of hindsight and if you are allowed a certain freedom you can easily improve on the original, especially if you have unlimited screentime equivalent in a Manga.

    Will be interesting though, something like GoT, where you also have sometimes quite significant differences between the books and the TV series.

  • BakedBrain

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    #33754671 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88

    Aka is doing destructive criticism, though it is fun to watch. Neither Lancaster nor Rosegarden have the intensity to call out priority on shipping, and they are also competing, which will leave a part of the fanbase unhappy if one of them is concluded

  • CarryOn88

    CarryOn88

    #33754712 - 2 months ago

    In reply to BakedBrain


    For example the relicts. If the relicts were hidden in vaults under the schools why did Cinder did not take the Beacon relic? Simple answer is there were no relicts at the times of vol 3


    Of course RT will make something like Ozpin hid it somewhere else or something like that

  • BakedBrain

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    #33754716 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88

    This will be rather easy to check, when they retrieve the relic. If the hiding place of the Beacon relic is present in volume 3 preferrably with a fair chance to guess it, then I lean towards planned and if not, I do not care. In case it was planned and the hiding-place is some generic floor tile indistinguishable from hundreds of others, the planning does not save the narrative.


    My own complaints are mostly in the Faunus arc. E.g. Blake taking off her bow with absolutely no effect on the behaviour of the accompanying people towards her. So no point in wearing it in the first place and no Faunus discrimination.

    If there are attempts of cover up, they are strangely ambiguous. The "peaceful" Faunus convoy attacked in the Adam short is crewed by masked, uniformed and armed people - actually better armed than the attackers (rifles vs pistols) even if you conveniently forget that the Faunus have no less than three experienced hunters amongst them while the "attackers" have not one. They alone should be capable of disarming the "attackers" within seconds

    Could go on for pages, because this is a morass.

  • Kira_Tsukasa

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    #33754723 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88

    There are a few easy theories to explain that. 


    1- Salem tasked Cinder only with gaining the Maiden power and hadn't told her about the relics yet. Keeping her underlings in the dark about certain details until they really need to know seems to be part of her MO.


    2- Cinder didn't have control enough over the Maiden power right after gaining it to open the door. And Salem likely would have known that going in, thus didn't task her with retrieving it at that point, or hearken back to theory 1.


    3- Cinder fought Ozpin then Pyrrha then got steamrolled by Ruby's eyes in quick succession. It's possible that she didn't have time to gather the relic.


    4- The battle between Cinder and Ozpin isn't fully seen. It's a possibility that Cinder didn't kill him, instead Ozpin killed himself by collapsing the underground room and sealed the way to the relic beneath rubble.


    It IS stated at the end of the volume that Grimm have been flocking to the school and we know that the relics are Grimm beacons. It's explained that it is due to the dragon being there, but the relics hadn't been revealed yet, neither to the audience nor the characters, so it's likely just an assumption being made. Why haven't they gone to get it yet? Well, without the White Fang and Atlesian military going berserk as a distraction, the huntsmen are able to devote their attention to guarding the school grounds, so stealthily grabbing it isn't viable. That puts it in a priority that takes place after they have all their other pieces in order, so that they grab it last then put their whole plan into motion immediately. Also possible that with all the Grimm in the area, Salem can get it any time she wants, thus she's not concerned with it at the moment.

  • BakedBrain

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    #33754727 - 2 months ago

    In reply to Kira_Tsukasa

    Later (sorry, do not know the episode), it is said, that the vault is hidden as an extra precaution. This may indeed indicate that the relics were introduced later. I would not have any problems with later ideas being inserted, it just has to fit. It would also be dumb to keep Amber as the key near the matching vault, especially if she is incapable of fighting. That is like putting the key under the doormat, so indeed the relics being a later idea is likely. A much better strategy would have been to have the maidens defending other vaults.

    This will be interesting with the Faunus in Atlas. Will there be real organized racism against Faunus, or is "only" Papa Schnee running his own apartheid in the shadows? Will they allow responsibility to hit two-seat-holder Ironwood? Did he play too much with his levitating ships to care for the humanoid rights situation?

  • HokutoYangSoup

    HokutoYangSoup

    #33754728 - 2 months ago

    In reply to CarryOn88

    In reply to Kira_Tsukasa


    pity the guy have some good points and points out massive flaws in narrative.


    What you listed is true but that is also not an excuse. When you start writting story you should have a plan that you will follow and doing last minute changes like in RWBY will only lower the quality of the show, create plotholes and force the writers to do some ad hoc actions to save the narrative

    It also didn't help the fact they stated they got all of the story planned ahead prior to Monty's death. That is fine if the execution and plot device weren't so poorly handled.


    In reply to CarryOn88

    In reply to BakedBrain


    For example the relicts. If the relicts were hidden in vaults under the schools why did Cinder did not take the Beacon relic? Simple answer is there were no relicts at the times of vol 3


    Of course RT will make something like Ozpin hid it somewhere else or something like that

    In reply to CarryOn88


    I honestly don't think anyone can go past beyond filling an explanation bucket for plot holes. This is almost on par with Bethesda's shoddy game where fans have to do all the fixing and improvement for them. Or better yet, the star wars film fiasco.