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    • Why WoW Fails To Entice Me

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      Not a troll post, forgive me for being verbose, but browsing this forum I figure a thread where we can throw around constructive criticism about this behemoth and weigh the pros and cons of its design and the experience it provides could be rather interesting.

      Why WoW fails to entice me (for extended periods of time. Been playing on and off since Jan of '06)

      Simplicity (to the max!):
      I suppose I can draw a small parallel between WoW and an iPhone app for comparison. An iPhone app is simple. Mostly bare bones, just what's needed. Sleek design, but the ultimate entertainment of an iPhone app is simple. That's why it's so accessable, and that's why it sells. Anyone can do it, and it offers a fair amount of entertainment without forcing the user to think too hard. Now, WoW isn't a button you press to make a fart sound. It's infinitely more complex than that. However, compared to the rest of the gaming world, the ultimate goal remains relatively simple. No more than a handful of buttons are absolutely necessary to make it to the game's highest level. And as far as questing goes, you get a paragraph of text that essentially tells you to kill wolves until you've collected 12 of their scrotums. Only, it's not scrotums, it's furs. But scrotums would make more sense, and I'll tell you why...

      Illogical, Reduntant, And Extremely Un-Heroic Quests And Gameplay:
      See, logically, if I were told to go and kill wolves until I had collected 12 scrotums, it would make sense that I would likely have to kill more than 12. Some wolves are male, some are female, some wolves might have had their junk torn off on a branch... whatever. However, every wolf has skin. Every wolf has fur. So why I have to kill 30 of them to collect 12 skins is beyond me. And for that matter, WHY am I killing wolves when there are demons and lich kings to kill, princesses to save (if she's not in another castle) all that jazz. The game essentially offers me quests to kill and collect or go talk to this guy for almost the entirety of my experience. Nothing new or exciting happens, ever. No random monster attack on a village, no highwaymen erecting a roadblock and refusing to let you pass until you've paid their toll. Nothing. The only reason I have to play is to get to the next level, which brings me to my next point...

      Lack Of Immersion, Or Personal Investment In Protagonist:
      Of course, MY character(s) is/are MY protagonist(s). Let's diagnose what qualifies as immersive, and what qualifies as personal investment. Story is immersive, but as I've pointed out, WoW is severely lacking in that department. Completely devoid of a personal struggle, an epic quest of discovery, character development, a moral path, a linear or even non-linear chain of events that define my character. In essence, I'm a hero who is on a mission much like Ash Ketchum's, only instead of trying to catch em all, I'm just trying to kill em all. Every animal, sentient creature, or abomination that I come across I pretty much want to kill. Now, the world Blizzard has built, I'll give it credit. It can be rather breathtaking at times. But I feel that most of that sense of discovery is lost through a third person perspective. Have you ever tried zooming in all the way until you can't go anymore, and you're practically looking through your character's eyes? It changes the feel of the entire world. I wouldn't pvp from this viewpoint, but I'd definitely run around in it if it weren't so boring. I can't see my hands as I swing my axe or cast a spell. I feel if Blizzard allowed players to turn off the character fade out as you zoom in, this issue would be corrected. However, that option seems to be locked. Now, let's examine personal investment. We don't define personal investment by time spent or effort put forth, but by what we stand to lose. And there isn't anything to lose in WoW. In Everquest, if you die you lose experience. It's possible to actually go down a level if you lose enough experience. In EVE Online, if you die, you LOSE YOUR SHIP. You'll get some of the cost of the ship itself minus guns, ammo, and cargo back (if you had insurance). If you have a good corporation (guild) they'll help you out. Otherwise you just have to make due with what you have and try and get back on your feet. In Warhammer, well, you've got me there. In WAR you just get a debuff, which is for all intents and purposes, typically less of a pain in the ass than an armor bill. However, WAR is almost entirely pvp, and once those debuffs stack they start to hurt. Without personal investment, without something to lose, there is no struggle. No reason to try my hardest to survive and best my foe. Without any real struggle, and a consequence should I fail, I'm essentially just pressing buttons. And that isn't very interesting at all.

      Offers Me Nothing I Can't Find Somewhere Else:
      Extremely little is unique about WoW. The gameplay is, in essence, identical to its predecessors like Everquest. And before Everquest, there were MUDs. And before MUDs, there was dungeons and dragons. All pretty much the same mechanic, just different mediums. In fact, most of the features of WoW that are most enjoyed by its players are taken from other games. Raiding, quite obviously, is something that's been in Everquest forever. Battlegrounds are an idea taken from DAoC. The achievement tracker is pretty much a rip off of a similar system found in Warhammer, released around the same time. Even the idea of Warcraft (the rts) was taken from the Warhammer tabletop game. What Blizzard excels at is taking good ideas from their competitors and throwing a little Blizzard polish and razzle dazzle on it, and then presenting it as something new in their game. Some might argue that, coming from a game with 11 million subscribers, that might be unfair business tactics. But whatever, we're not here to debate that. Speaking of Warhammer...

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    • HAIRY DICKS

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    • HAIRY DICKS

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    • Why WoW fails to entice me

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      Not a troll post, forgive me for being verbose, but browsing this forum I figure a thread where we can throw around constructive criticism about this behemoth and weigh the pros and cons of its design and the experience it provides could be rather interesting.

      Why WoW fails to entice me (for extended periods of time. Been playing on and off since Jan of '06)

      Simplicity (to the max!):
      I suppose I can draw a small parallel between WoW and an iPhone app for comparison. An iPhone app is simple. Mostly bare bones, just what's needed. Sleek design, but the ultimate entertainment of an iPhone app is simple. That's why it's so accessable, and that's why it sells. Anyone can do it, and it offers a fair amount of entertainment without forcing the user to think too hard. Now, WoW isn't a button you press to make a fart sound. It's infinitely more complex than that. However, compared to the rest of the gaming world, the ultimate goal remains relatively simple. No more than a handful of buttons are absolutely necessary to make it to the game's highest level. And as far as questing goes, you get a paragraph of text that essentially tells you to kill wolves until you've collected 12 of their scrotums. Only, it's not scrotums, it's furs. But scrotums would make more sense, and I'll tell you why...

      Illogical, Reduntant, And Extremely Un-Heroic Quests And Gameplay:
      See, logically, if I were told to go and kill wolves until I had collected 12 scrotums, it would make sense that I would likely have to kill more than 12. Some wolves are male, some are female, some wolves might have had their junk torn off on a branch... whatever. However, every wolf has skin. Every wolf has fur. So why I have to kill 30 of them to collect 12 skins is beyond me. And for that matter, WHY am I killing wolves when there are demons and lich kings to kill, princesses to save (if she's not in another castle) all that jazz. The game essentially offers me quests to kill and collect or go talk to this guy for almost the entirety of my experience. Nothing new or exciting happens, ever. No random monster attack on a village, no highwaymen erecting a roadblock and refusing to let you pass until you've paid their toll. Nothing. The only reason I have to play is to get to the next level, which brings me to my next point...

      Lack Of Immersion, Or Personal Investment In Protagonist:
      Of course, MY character(s) is/are MY protagonist(s). Let's diagnose what qualifies as immersive, and what qualifies as personal investment. Story is immersive, but as I've pointed out, WoW is severely lacking in that department. Completely devoid of a personal struggle, an epic quest of discovery, character development, a moral path, a linear or even non-linear chain of events that define my character. In essence, I'm a hero who is on a mission much like Ash Ketchum's, only instead of trying to catch em all, I'm just trying to kill em all. Every animal, sentient creature, or abomination that I come across I pretty much want to kill. Now, the world Blizzard has built, I'll give it credit. It can be rather breathtaking at times. But I feel that most of that sense of discovery is lost through a third person perspective. Have you ever tried zooming in all the way until you can't go anymore, and you're practically looking through your character's eyes? It changes the feel of the entire world. I wouldn't pvp from this viewpoint, but I'd definitely run around in it if it weren't so boring. I can't see my hands as I swing my axe or cast a spell. I feel if Blizzard allowed players to turn off the character fade out as you zoom in, this issue would be corrected. However, that option seems to be locked. Now, let's examine personal investment. We don't define personal investment by time spent or effort put forth, but by what we stand to lose. And there isn't anything to lose in WoW. In Everquest, if you die you lose experience. It's possible to actually go down a level if you lose enough experience. In EVE Online, if you die, you LOSE YOUR SHIP. You'll get some of the cost of the ship itself minus guns, ammo, and cargo back (if you had insurance). If you have a good corporation (guild) they'll help you out. Otherwise you just have to make due with what you have and try and get back on your feet. In Warhammer, well, you've got me there. In WAR you just get a debuff, which is for all intents and purposes, typically less of a pain in the ass than an armor bill. However, WAR is almost entirely pvp, and once those debuffs stack they start to hurt. Without personal investment, without something to lose, there is no struggle. No reason to try my hardest to survive and best my foe. Without any real struggle, and a consequence should I fail, I'm essentially just pressing buttons. And that isn't very interesting at all.

      Offers Me Nothing I Can't Find Somewhere Else:
      Extremely little is unique about WoW. The gameplay is, in essence, identical to its predecessors like Everquest. And before Everquest, there were MUDs. And before MUDs, there was dungeons and dragons. All pretty much the same mechanic, just different mediums. In fact, most of the features of WoW that are most enjoyed by its players are taken from other games. Raiding, quite obviously, is something that's been in Everquest forever. Battlegrounds are an idea taken from DAoC. The achievement tracker is pretty much a rip off of a similar system found in Warhammer, released around the same time. Even the idea of Warcraft (the rts) was taken from the Warhammer tabletop game. What Blizzard excels at is taking good ideas from their competitors and throwing a little Blizzard polish and razzle dazzle on it, and then presenting it as something new in their game. Some might argue that, coming from a game with 11 million subscribers, that might be unfair business tactics. But whatever, we're not here to debate that. Speaking of Warhammer...

      (Contd. next post)

      Post edited 12/22/09 5:05PM

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    • Engaged!

      9 years ago

      CALLmeCRAZY

      Yup. Popped THE question! I bought the ring earlier today, during my hour long lunch from Lowe's. kept pulling it out and looking at it all day. Imagining and daydreaming of my plan to do it on Christmas. When Rebekah picked me up from work, it was apparent that waiting would be a lot harder than I had originally anticipated. I wanted to pull the ring out and propose right there. But I held my ground!

      When I got home, my parents had bought us a 40 dollar gift card and encouraged me to take her to dinner and propose tonight. At this point... I finally caved. FUCK WAITING. So I took her to dinner, we ordered our drinks and a thing of queso... I couldn't even wait for the waiter to come back for us to order our real food.

      I said "Baby, when we get home there are some important papers I need you to look at" (insert big dumb grin I couldn't hide for the life of me)

      "What papers?" she replied.

      "The appraisal papers..." I began as I pulled the ring box out of my pocket and opened it for her to see, "for this ring."

      Her eyes got all wide and she was trying to hide her smile, I scooted out of my booth and got on one knee and asked if she would marry me. To which she replied "Of course I will!"

      And she's been all smiles ever since. Just the way I love her.

      I love you baby. Yours forever.

    • Waiting To Die.

      9 years ago

      CALLmeCRAZY

      I remember when we paved these roads. With sweat on our brow and courage in our hearts we conquered this barren wilderness, and upon it we built a world from our dreams. With our bare hands and spilt blood we laid each stone, and we were filled with pride at the sight of the fruit of our efforts. But we are grown old and decrepit, unable to maintain the dreams we brought into reality. So our buildings crumble and our roads split and crack. Everything frays at the edges and tears at the seams, while we watch and wait to join it.

      I have watched you. I know that you are unhappy. People don’t like you, and that makes you dislike yourself. Your self-loathing makes you miserable. Your misery causes you to lash out at everyone around you, which causes them to dislike you. And we’re right back where we started. You fill as much time with as many uninspired and frivolous efforts as you can. Anything that passes the time. And at the end of it all, you come home to an empty bed and a dreamless sleep, waiting to do it all over again the next day and the next after that. Waiting to die. You are worthless.

      I have watched you. I know that you are unhappy. I know this because I have been there. And if you feel nothing when you read this, feel free to dismiss it. Ramblings of a useless and washed up poetic who doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. Go and live your life. But if you feel anything at all while you read this, even the smallest amount of emotion whether it be pain or peace or none of the above, I urge you to cling to it. Hold onto it desperately, and let this current carry you where it may. Because I may be the last person who tells you how unhappy you are, and reminds you to live. Wash away the numbness you bathe in every hour of every day. Bask in the pain you feel, and be glad that you are truly alive for the first time in however long. Dream.


      We only get one shot at this. Don’t waste it on waiting to die.

    • It's just a jump to the left

      9 years ago

      CALLmeCRAZY

      Saw rocky horror for the first time last night. Wasn't half as ruined as I thought I'd be, though I'll never look at Tim Curry the same. I guess I've just been building it up in my head from things I've heard as the years went by, though I'll be the first to admit that had I seen it earlier in my life I would have been totally immature about it.

      Speaking of my life, I'm 23 today, and it's my 5 year anniversary here. Yay me.

      There's nothing I truly long for this year, the thing I most require is mine. And if I were to make one wish on this occasion it would be to keep that thing for all time.

      Love ya, baby.

    • In case some of you don't follow

      9 years ago

      CALLmeCRAZY

      I can only pray that by some miracle, someone wants to sell this case without all the extra shit.

      kotaku.com/5367526/this-alienware-pc-has-motorized-racing-vents

    • stupid pee pee rock

      9 years ago

      CALLmeCRAZY

      it's about time i got rid of you

    • kidney stones

      10 years ago

      CALLmeCRAZY

      feel very much like the pain you receive from a kick in the nuts... not the testicular pain, but the aftermath. times ten.

  • About Me

  • Comments (1921)

    • GamerChick09

      9 years ago

      I love you, ya know

    • roosterman

      9 years ago

      Couldn't hurt!

    • scorch375

      9 years ago

      i raise my goblet to you sir for your picture is the greatest thing ive seen all day! haha!

    • GamerChick09

      9 years ago

      My baby! :D

    • GamerChick09

      9 years ago

      Thank you, love. For everything

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      I miss you

    • SolidusNinja

      10 years ago

      monkey.jpg

      Meet professor William Monkeykins, the quote dispensing monkey.

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      Your title! Go baby go! That's what I texted ya when you were at work :D *giggles and cheers you on*

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      I love you too, Shane. Yours! :D

    • SolidusNinja

      10 years ago

      I hadn't thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense looking back now. Right on :)

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      i has a sec-a-ret. Youre my love *blushes*

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      Im so glad I got to see you tonight. I'll be so happy when we can see each other a lot more again :)

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      Not impure! smiley12.gif

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      I want to play L4D with you again my love :) smiley0.gif

    • GamerChick09

      10 years ago

      I love you! smiley12.gifsmiley12.gifsmiley12.gif

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Your own fault

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      I bet!

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      No you did not.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      I bet it is.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Kind of ran out of time this week to play bioshock. But I did finish all of hl2, eps and portal! So that's something.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      I'm getting monies soon, but that's going to prototype

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Well duh, I would but yeah. Too many games I want and not enough cashola.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      I haven't even played the first!

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Ok, it might be fun. Also an updated halo one would be awesome ala Black Mesa Source.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      with unlimited ammo and regenerating health! Yes, sounds fantastic.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Heh, That game looks kinda meh to me.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Yeah but this is like cool and shit. It fires stuff all fast like. I dunno, more stuff to have? :D

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Yeah, I hardly even use the suit. Or the Gauss rifle. :P

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      It's really short and linear. Bunch of items but he ones that are really cool are the Gauss rifle and the Chinese stealth suit. Gauss rifle is nice for massive damage and I think it can cripple limbs in one shot. Slow reload though, one shot at a time. The Chinese stealth suit is the best though. Makes you pretty much invisible. Like a stealth boy but permanent.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      lol, I actually have anchorage. :P I want broken steel mainly for the level cap raise, oh and the never ending...ness of it.

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Oh man, oh fucking man. I don't think I've ever played a game this long on my first run through. I have maybe one or two quests to do before the last one. I just need to get the pitt and broken steel yet.

    • SolidusNinja

      10 years ago

      Nah, I will punch the timeline right in the face.

    • FalseHope01

      10 years ago

      Srsly?

    • SolidusNinja

      10 years ago

      It IS Vector, I got a letter in the mail too :D Having gone through a day of training so far, I can say that as far as network marketing / direct selling companies go, this is the only one that has base pay for each appointment you do, and one of the few who have no competitive names. So guaranteed money, with a 60% chance the product will sell, making you more and more money as you go. It's pretty easy too man, I was skeptic at first but the company is actually as badass as they make themselves out to be.

    • FalseHope01

      10 years ago

      Tell Emir to kiss my ass, his butt buddy is ALLLLL mine...
      And that I love and miss him =)

    • SolidusNinja

      10 years ago

      You need to post some screenshots Shaney-san. You've made me curious and this computer would take years to download anything that isn't e-mail.

    • denadanger7

      10 years ago

      iknowrite?

    • denadanger7

      10 years ago

      the bird inspires all.

    • FalseHope01

      10 years ago

      Sooo... when do I get to see ya'll already???

    • denadanger7

      10 years ago

      D:

    • RyokoBelmont

      10 years ago

      o:! No one talks to you at 2 am?! That's horrible! >:
      Would you like a hug?

    • FalseHope01

      10 years ago

      I thought you might get a chuckle from that =)
      Turned a friend's face red when I tried to show him the burn.
      It much be contagious or something. <3

    • SolidusNinja

      10 years ago

      how do you hate metallica :O, anything after master of puppets I can imagine why... but :O

      :O i tell you

    • denadanger7

      10 years ago

      <3

    • denadanger7

      10 years ago

      .... wait... no.. i actually...
      meant.. the items..


      woooowww. accidental double meanings suck

    • FalseHope01

      10 years ago

      Srsly? Amy still manager?

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      I'm not! I didn't even know you were a cow!

    • Vidar

      10 years ago

      Utter nonsense! The quanity of sugary substance is serverly lacking. I shall rent a dumptruck!

    • denadanger7

      10 years ago

      AND I love carpet. But mostly lamp.

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